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6/7/2024 Chats / helpdesk

@Helpdesk here

21:18

I assume everyone here will be helpdesking

21:19

I'll probably send in the card app links as well as the list of all the challenges soon

ok

perfect!

how will this work then? will we get assigned specific teams that we're assisting?

I think you'll all be assisting all teams, whatever opportunity arises such as when teams need help or anything, they can tag the role.

20:34

Also, the other plan is to have each team have their discord location on so that you can have a bit of fun tracking their moments.

20:35

Oh and most notably.

20:35

In the team chats, each will have their own verification channel

20:36

Teams will submit their claim to complete a challenge (edited)

20:36

Abd the Helpdesk can decide whether to approve it.

20:37

With potentially the tracker, the Helpdesk can ask for more info or check the tracker map

alright perfect

I'm currently trying to figure out rules in regards on how helpdesk can assist teams.

https://www.canva.com/design/DAGFxBe4WlY/wwUCHjbRneRnojpXxUWxAQ/edit?utm_content=DAGFxBe4WlY&utm_campaign=designshare&utm_medium=link2&utm_source=sharebutton

00:34

Apologies for being very slow

00:35

The link above will link you to all the challenge cards to be used this weekend.

00:35

Wanna give the whole helpdesk a chance to memorise

00:38

This includes the cursed and buffs (Though some will probably be made redundant following a last minute tweak)

00:40

Also, there are 7 spare challenges at the bottom of the deck.

00:40

Should anyone need a spare challenge for any reason

00:41

Anyone in helpdesk can at their own discretion select a challenge for the team.

00:41

However, each team can only use each of those challenges once.

00:44

I may introduce a rule allowing teams to claim original points at Helpdesk's discretion

So, my issue is that I will not have access to a computer on Saturday as my laptop is still in the shop as of now, and will only be available on mobile. Will this still be of any help? If not, I'll step back this time from helpdesk. Sorry for last minute notice...

Lusamine

So, my issue is that I will not have access to a computer on Saturday as my laptop is still in the shop as of now, and will only be available on mobile. Will this still be of any help? If not, I'll step back this time from helpdesk. Sorry for last minute notice...

That should be fine as long as you have access to internet and discord.

That I do

Remember the game starts at 9pm BST, so ideally be online beforehand

FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb

Remember the game starts at 9pm BST, so ideally be online beforehand

This time tomorrow: 09:00 correct? (edited)

20:24

I will be online and available from earlier, yeah

Yes, 9am British time.

20:31

Probably 10-11 for you.

Yep

I'll be doing some rules for the Helpdesk, which i'll post and probably do a briefing on some tomorrow if anyone is willing to go on VC. (They don't have to speak, just enter the VC)

sounds good!

will do

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HQHy69XgEswweHCdTFFQsIFciFqe0lqDL18mpZbPys8/edit?usp=sharing

JL Summer London 2024 Helpdesk Rules

Helpdesk Rules The Helpdesk will be responsible mainly for verifying any of the team's challenge attempts as well as helping out with clarifying any of the challenges. However, they're not allowed to help with directions to locations unless in an emergency or other exceptional circumstances. ...

22:14

https://www.generatormix.com/random-address-in-london?number=5

Random Address In London - GeneratorMix

22:14

(Link for generating addresses for "Ship this Card") (edited)

22:20

Deck 1 https://v1.jetlaguk.pages.dev/?team=fixhqlpkkv&readonly=true Deck 2 https://v1.jetlaguk.pages.dev/?team=phdjlyewqw&readonly=true Deck 3 https://v1.jetlaguk.pages.dev/?team=socusauecl&readonly=true (edited)

22:20

It will be confirmed on the day on which team will get which deck (edited)

alright nice

https://docs.google.com/document/d/18JZHgY1NMdQAojLJeLF8bWISHnUG3eqmOn9wqwuM9tM/edit?usp=sharing

Summer London Scavanger Hunt 2024 Rules

Each team will be given a link each for the virtual deck of cards. A notebook/logbook is optional. All teams must have 7 cards in their hand at all times. For each card completed after doing a challenge, draw 1 card. (I) Whilst doing each challenge, you must send photographs as evidence to show ...

22:51

(Player Rules)

22:51

Thought it be worth keeping it in case, for the players.

22:52

Or if you're in doubt about the rules stated, just @ me and I'll try and respond

Also gonna add rules on breaks too, not to forget

Also, not to forget, the rules on spare cards

I can talk in #team-1-chat but not #ay-caramba-chat or #team-3-chat

belle

I can talk in #team-1-chat but not #ay-caramba-chat or #team-3-chat

Same

That's weird, I thought you can.

08:37

@Helpdesk try now

Works

08:47

Also, there seems to be a mistake in the game rules (?)

Image attachment

Lusamine

Also, there seems to be a mistake in the game rules (?)

Let me fix this .

Just to let everyone know I will be stepping away from discord at certain points but I will let you guys know beforehand

Aviator856

Just to let everyone know I will be stepping away from discord at certain points but I will let you guys know beforehand

No worries

09:03

@Helpdesk wanna hop onto VC?

09:03

Briefing room?

Sure

Sure one moment

Here

The links sent to team 1 and team 3 are the same

Idk lol

@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb the links sent to teams 1 and 3 are the same

https://v1.jetlaguk.pages.dev/?team=fixhqlpkkv&readonly=true (Team 2)

09:24

https://v1.jetlaguk.pages.dev/?team=phdjlyewqw&readonly=true (Team 3)

Yeah, the one for team 3 is wrong

https://v1.jetlaguk.pages.dev/?team=socusauecl&readonly=true (Team 1)

FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb

https://v1.jetlaguk.pages.dev/?team=phdjlyewqw&readonly=true (Team 3)

doesn’t look like a hand has been drawn yet, as they might still be using the deck in chat

Should we notify team 3 about it? (edited)

I think so

https://discord.com/channels/1059625399979606166/1257738512334065786/1259066337532186689 not sure, I'd say yes?

Yea

if they mean taking a photo of a photo of a plane at Croydon Airport I don't think it fits the card. wouldn't even save them that much time as they still have to be at Croydon Airport to complete the card and there's a big plane right outside of it

09:46

I might be misunderstanding however

Makes sense. Then I'd say no in that case

I’d say no given the reward, but not sure if I don’t consider so

I mean my understanding is that as long as they are on site, and took a picture of a plane, that counts right?

If there's a big plane outside Croydon airport I don't see why they would need to resort to a photo of a plane

what are they asking for?

09:48

like they wanted to take a picture of a picture of a plane?

hiitswendyhere

like they wanted to take a picture of a picture of a plane?

That's what they're asking

Ah, then in that case I agree that it shouldnt be allowed

09:52

do we need to be keeping track of points?

I don't know tbh. Might be a good idea though

Lusamine

I don't know tbh. Might be a good idea though

Probably

I can be on that in a few minutes

I mean at the end of the game we could just look back at the challenges

Lusamine

I can be on that in a few minutes

Ok

Team 3 doesn't have the big ben card they did in their hand

10:15

#team-3-verification

It’s already checked

I know but it isn't in their hand it's in team 1's hand

Oh, that is a problem.. the links were mixed up at the beginning

They have “hear Big Ben bong”

ohh i see now

10:17

my bad

While team 1 had another card that could also be done there

Points Team 1: 0 Team 2: 2 Team 3: 2 Timestamped 10:25:00 (edited)

Lusamine

Points Team 1: 0 Team 2: 2 Team 3: 2 Timestamped 10:25:00 (edited)

does this include the points for big gun?

Yes

they didn't complete that challenge as the forward turrets on HMS Belfast are only 6 inch in calibre and the challenge requires a 12 inch minimum

Oh. Will change that Can you ping them to make them aware?

10:40

https://discord.com/channels/1059625399979606166/1257738640767844423/1259081245036515408 I say fair game

it does say 5 different boroughs on the card

Points Team 1: 0 Team 2: 6 Team 3: 5 Timestamped 10:43:00

https://discord.com/channels/1059625399979606166/1257738729141964863/1259083751036686398

10:50

I'd say it works for that

agree

10:51

I will be unavailable from now until around 11:45

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https://discord.com/channels/1059625399979606166/1257738729141964863/1259086119048319028 I’d think it’s fine to have it on just 1 side

oh I misread that card completely that picture counts

I'm stepping away from discord for a bit, will be back in 15-20 min

1

they don't need to go on HS1 for the card right? https://discord.com/channels/1059625399979606166/1257738210818396262/1259090010481758339

belle

they don't need to go on HS1 for the card right? https://discord.com/channels/1059625399979606166/1257738210818396262/1259090010481758339

They do, at least for 1 station

it says all 10 underground lines and the east london line (edited)

They also have an HSR card

ah missed that

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gu8_yy6DBMbhWYLsjqBLqNbzWQZfF6k0Mmoz8lyC-Yk/edit?usp=sharing Made a spreadsheet to keep track of score

Jet Lag UK Team Score

Score Team 1,Team 2,Team 3 Total Score,0,Total Score,0,Total Score,0 Challenge,Score,Challenge,Score,Challenge,Score

11:30

I need to leave for a bit too. Will probably be back in around 45 minutes

1

@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb where's the rude street name list?

Yea

how do I do stuff

??

idk what I'm doing lmao

Well same

12:05

We try to help the teams when stuck

I'm back

12:08

Although almost time for dinner for me (edited)

Anyone have the rude street name list or smth similar?

i'm gonna quickly grab some food, i'll be 20 minutes

belle

@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb where's the rude street name list?

There's no list

12:14

Teams can find any street name considered rude (edited)

Okay

well why does it say to check the list

Of course, this would be up to Helpdesk's discretion

12:15

Ah yeah, it's a typo

12:15

It was copied from the original challenge.

I see

Ok, I am available again

I'll go soon for dinner

Ok #team-3-chat do tube stations count?

I’d say so

I'd also say yes

id say yes cuz its the london underground rail system right

i would say no

how come？

it could just be me but the wording (rail station, train) makes me think NR only, not tube

they're right next to bond street which is both on the national rail network and a tube station. I think if they go there they've completed the challenge regardless of semantics

belle

they're right next to bond street which is both on the national rail network and a tube station. I think if they go there they've completed the challenge regardless of semantics

is it step-free to both?

Is bond street step free?

I think step-free to the Elizabeth line platform counts

i do think regardless elizabeth line definitely count as rail

same ^^

hiitswendyhere

is it step-free to both?

there's an accessible entrance to the jubilee and central lines on marylebone lane and the national rail website lists the elizabeth line platfroms as step free

sounds good

12:27

can you let them know? (edited)

ok... they've gone to a pub called the whittington stone https://discord.com/channels/1059625399979606166/1257738210818396262/1259111561554038805

12:41

i'm inclined to accept it as it's in the spirit of the challenge and basically right next to where they should be (which is annoyingly marked as whittington's cat statue)

12:42

@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb as an aside can helpdesk get all roles ping permission so we can quickly ping each other and the teams

belle

i'm inclined to accept it as it's in the spirit of the challenge and basically right next to where they should be (which is annoyingly marked as whittington's cat statue)

@Deveroonie @hiitswendyhere @Lusamine thoughts?

belle

@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb as an aside can helpdesk get all roles ping permission so we can quickly ping each other and the teams

Let me check

belle

@Deveroonie @hiitswendyhere @Lusamine thoughts?

idk

belle

@Deveroonie @hiitswendyhere @Lusamine thoughts?

I think it's ok

Deveroonie

it could just be me but the wording (rail station, train) makes me think NR only, not tube

Same

12:50

I'm taking a break for lunch

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T1 break point: Whittington Stone pub (resume 13:46) T2 break point: Croydon Airport (resume 13:51) T3 break point: London Paddington mainline (resume 14:06) (edited)

belle

@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb as an aside can helpdesk get all roles ping permission so we can quickly ping each other and the teams

Let me check as I'm at break now

brilliant thank you

Try now

perfect thanks a lot

I'm back now. Seems like every team is on a break though

Yep

That IKEA is one I’ve visited

sorry i'm back. everything sounds good so far to me

https://discord.com/channels/1059625399979606166/1257738640767844423/1259125968304472095

13:38

i'd say yes

Me too (edited)

Same

13:45

Team 1 is about to restart

@Helpdesk https://discord.com/channels/1059625399979606166/1257738109911699486/1259130301779808317

13:55

i agree we should give them a limit

13:55

2m doesn't seem fair to me

I'd think they can do a challenge

shall we give them a limit of 14:16 to decide what to pinch?

And if that challenge is gone (from getting swapped), the curse is also cleared (edited)

13:57

Or is there somewhere with a better explanation?

Team 1 can either do a challenge and not get a response for a while (because their hand will change so we can't send it to team 3) or not do a challenge and get a response a lot quicker (because their hand won't change so we can send it now)

13:59

i think we should let them choose which one to do

belle

i think we should let them choose which one to do

ok

i'll inform t1

2

14:11

or not

I'll most likely change the spreadsheet to view only after the event ends just in case

2

Going on a walk

be back in ten minutes

FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb

https://www.generatormix.com/random-address-in-london?number=5

@Deveroonie for ship this card we use this link to randomly generate a london address, make sure it's doable and then give it to the team

i see

15:09

i thought you gave them your home address or some shit

It said you have to say you started it

belle

@Deveroonie for ship this card we use this link to randomly generate a london address, make sure it's doable and then give it to the team

Yep

FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb

Yep

thoughts? https://discord.com/channels/1059625399979606166/1257738640767844423/1259149665773817907

Make sure to use that link I sent

i did dw

belle

thoughts? https://discord.com/channels/1059625399979606166/1257738640767844423/1259149665773817907

Is it mandatory to visit that address?

Yes

15:16

But not like take a pic of someone's house.

15:16

Just mainly the street

@Helpdesk thoughts on this? https://discord.com/channels/1059625399979606166/1257738210818396262/1259159620811882620

3

I'd count if all the ones on that board (except removed ones) count

I will be somewhat less available for the last few hours of the game, but will try to check in and help out when I can

1

~~If you do not have enough fun, the audience will yell at you~~

2

I'm back

16:22

Team 3 is a bit stuck

Do you discard a failed challenge after "Go big or go home"?

Me

16:23

No

Or does the challenge still occupy the slot?

MediocreLogarithm257

Do you discard a failed challenge after "Go big or go home"?

i would think so

My instincts would say so

if you didn't and it was a card like the ally pally one you could just do it again and still get half the points

Did team 3 ever do late train?

16:53

Wait. They should have 7 cards including "ship this card" (what they have rn)

I'll tell them to discard one

They don't need to

1

16:54

Forgot "ship this card" brought it back to 7 (+1) (edited)

Has team 1 officially completed the 2 challenges?

without seeing the video no

I see the video now

When does the game end?

6pm iirc

17:45

6pm tracks with getting there 45 minutes late as it takes an hour to get there from upminster (edited)

Seems like they would arrive at Upminster at 6pm

MediocreLogarithm257

When does the game end?

6:25 apparently (see #general) (edited)

Should we ask if team 2 want to call the game end right now?

sounds reasonable

Or just if they want to do more challenges?

18:09

Then game ends here? Since they definitely can't get back to the starting point (edited)

@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb want me to announce the final scores?

I've just double checked all the scores, and they're correct

belle

@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb want me to announce the final scores?

Go for it.

18:15

I'd double check the teams first

18:15

If they can't do anymore challenges at Picc C

18:16

Go for it

they've both sent in their pictures so they've finished the game

MediocreLogarithm257

I've just double checked all the scores, and they're correct

Wait no

Pardon my faded mind

MediocreLogarithm257

Wait no

what's up?

In this case go for it.

We missed a bonus point for team 1

18:17

They got a bonus point for Chiming in for doing no E

ah yes, i see that's been changed

18:22

@MediocreLogarithm257 do you want to put the spreadsheet permission to view only and send it so the players can see the breakdown?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gu8_yy6DBMbhWYLsjqBLqNbzWQZfF6k0Mmoz8lyC-Yk/edit?usp=sharing

Jet Lag UK Team Score

Score Team 1,Team 2,Team 3 Total Score,37,Total Score,37,Total Score,42 Challenge,Score,Challenge,Score,Challenge,Score One flew over the cuckoo's nest,5,Phone a friend,1,Facing your Waterloo,1 Need for speed,2,Elephant in the room,1,All through this hour,1 Chiming in (with no E bonus),5,A king'...

18:22

Changed it to view only

@MediocreLogarithm257 the pets at home challenge for team 3 should be four points

Changed it

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I was up for more of the event than I'd expected

was good to have you!

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