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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 13/08/2024 21:05
@Players Here guys. Apologies for this category not properly set up yet, I'll get onto this shortly.
21:06
Usually, I'd sort out teams and pick the players into teams myself to try and balance it out depending on experience, which is ranked higher etc. However, this time I think it's more appropriate that I give players some flexibility in choosing which team to go for and I'm sure players would prefer if they choose. However I do want to recommend that Me and Mithent should be on separate teams based on experience and ranking, and as well as high suitability as team captains (even though I'm not as perfect), however I'll probably leave the rest to you guys. I'm aware not all of you have met one another but I think it's good to have some communication beforehand.
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Do I need to give some sort of pitch? I spent the last five days at a convention where I didn't get enough sleep, so I'm confident that I'll be extremely awake on Saturday!
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I guess it would be useful if we introduce ourselves briefly so we know what our strengths/weaknesses are?
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Revealing your weaknesses to your opponents? But if you like!
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@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb can you give the player role to fried noodles here (edited)
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Fahmi Sack 14/08/2024 04:05
May I propose a suggestion? Those who wish to be team captains drop a pitch by the end of tomorrow, i.e. before 15 August 2024 00:00. On thr 16th, we all vote who becomes team captains. The vote will last for 24 hours. The two best votes become captains, and the highest voter gets first pick. Tiebreakers determined by a coin flip.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 14/08/2024 05:55
@j.dcosta8 here
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Fahmi Sack
May I propose a suggestion? Those who wish to be team captains drop a pitch by the end of tomorrow, i.e. before 15 August 2024 00:00. On thr 16th, we all vote who becomes team captains. The vote will last for 24 hours. The two best votes become captains, and the highest voter gets first pick. Tiebreakers determined by a coin flip.
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 14/08/2024 05:56
Someone with a need for responsibility is required to be team captain.
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What exactly does a team captain do?
19:23
Like what responsibilities do they have exactly in comparison to the rest of the team.
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Jemma
What exactly does a team captain do?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 14/08/2024 19:43
Generally more experience, knowledge and capability in competing in a game.
19:44
As well as finances, in case if other members cannot afford or anything.
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Strategy is really going to be a joint thing, it doesn't usually mean anything for that
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What do they actually do though that's different? Aside from finances, if strategy is all pretty joint, is there anything else the captain needs to be responsible for?
23:56
I'm def not putting myself forward btw as I dint have the experience or knowledge, I'm just wondering from a gameplay perspective the difference between captain vs team member.
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I don't think there is much besides ensuring each team has someone who knows how the game runs and has some nominal responsibility for keeping things on track
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Mithent
Revealing your weaknesses to your opponents? But if you like!
Sorry yeah on second thought … πŸ˜…
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Fahmi Sack 15/08/2024 21:14

Game start:

# 17/08/2024 09:00
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Are teams going to be sorted out today so we can plan a little before the game starts?
12:10
Also is there a link to a rules/info doc somewhere? I'm sure I've seen it before but discord search isn't the best.
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Jemma
Are teams going to be sorted out today so we can plan a little before the game starts?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 16/08/2024 12:20
I do have a team lineup set up in mind, just wasn't sure whether to give teams a chance to choose.
12:20
Fine then, I'll confirm the lineup now.
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Also is there a link to a rules/info doc somewhere? I'm sure I've seen it before but discord search isn't the best.
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 16/08/2024 12:21
Rules are still in draft form but i'll probably send it in here in case.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 16/08/2024 12:38
From the start location in the centre of London (ideally a bus hub, maybe Kings Cross/Victoria, or for central central London, maybe Waterloo), teams aim to create an unbroken line of ticketed journeys from the start location to various other locations, among them more central locations and fur...
12:39
Just a bit stressed up, so probably expect very slow progression to try and sort stuff out
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Fahmi Sack 16/08/2024 13:37
@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb is there a role for non players and non Helpdesk to spectate throughout the day? I imagine it might be interesting to those who'd want it.
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Fahmi Sack
@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb is there a role for non players and non Helpdesk to spectate throughout the day? I imagine it might be interesting to those who'd want it.
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 16/08/2024 13:48
That's a possibility.
13:49
Main issue is, I wouldn't trust them from stating what they see into other chats that could give out something neither teams don't want to know.
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I was thinking before about assigning people to see and talk to one team
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Main issue is, I wouldn't trust them from stating what they see into other chats that could give out something neither teams don't want to know.
Fahmi Sack 16/08/2024 15:15
Understandable.
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Mithent
I was thinking before about assigning people to see and talk to one team
Fahmi Sack 16/08/2024 15:16
Do we have enough helpdesk for that?
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Fahmi Sack
Do we have enough helpdesk for that?
This goes back to the Manchester game, but I wasn't thinking of this as being a "helpdesk" role, more like a spectator/cheerleader/occasional strategist thing that could allow lightweight remote engagement
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 16/08/2024 17:39
Just an unofficial reminder, make sure to bring in your ID if you can in case if we want to hit the Spoons after the game. Last time, there was an issue where one of us didn't bring any ID at had difficulty getting inside (thanks to Fahmi who was there he was let off)
17:39
Apologies for late timing
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Only a bit early
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Just an unofficial reminder, make sure to bring in your ID if you can in case if we want to hit the Spoons after the game. Last time, there was an issue where one of us didn't bring any ID at had difficulty getting inside (thanks to Fahmi who was there he was let off)
Fahmi Sack 16/08/2024 18:45
What did I do?
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Fahmi Sack
What did I do?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 16/08/2024 18:48
Thought you said you talked out with security at the door to let him in.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Thought you said you talked out with security at the door to let him in.
Fahmi Sack 16/08/2024 20:08
Oh yeah I did πŸ˜‚
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 16/08/2024 20:17
If anyone from Team 2 can start setting up their Location sharing and history, i'd apppreciate it as it would save some time tomorrow
20:17
And I think breaks will be talked about tomorrow
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
If anyone from Team 2 can start setting up their Location sharing and history, i'd apppreciate it as it would save some time tomorrow
Fahmi Sack 16/08/2024 20:25
Please post this in your team chat!
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Ah sorry will do that now!
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Where exactly is the meeting place tomorrow? I know it's King's Cross a bit before nine, but that spans a wide area.
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Jemma
Where exactly is the meeting place tomorrow? I know it's King's Cross a bit before nine, but that spans a wide area.
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 16/08/2024 23:20
Usually outside in front of both stations where the grey benches are.
23:21
@jammy @j.dcosta8 Remember this too.
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I'm assuming it will be obvious?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 16/08/2024 23:22
And @geordie since you haven't started from KX before.
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If I'm on that area it's usually rushing to a train.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 16/08/2024 23:22
KX and SP are next to each other.
23:23
So technically somewhere in the middle up front.
23:23
There is a spacious courtyard up front so it's probably not too hard to search around
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Usually outside in front of both stations where the grey benches are.
Cool
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
There is a spacious courtyard up front so it's probably not too hard to search around
I'll message in here if I can't find you. It being spacious is kinda the issue when I haven't met a lot of you before.
23:24
I'll probably get the bus in and looks like the benches are by that on street view so hopefully should be fine.
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Jemma
I'll message in here if I can't find you. It being spacious is kinda the issue when I haven't met a lot of you before.
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 16/08/2024 23:25
Think there's only 2 people out of 5 you haven't met before that would be joining us. ( i mean for rest of us it's only one time before i guess)
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Think there's only 2 people out of 5 you haven't met before that would be joining us. ( i mean for rest of us it's only one time before i guess)
I didn't hang around in the pub last time, so I only briefly met everyone not on our team. Plus I'm bad with faces.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 06:37
@Players
06:37
Morning
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Morning 🫑
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 07:02
Development: Currently No Elizabeth services between Heahthorw T2 and T5 due to a broken down train. We'll allow teams to use the Heathrow Express free service instead, which will count towards this line.
07:05
According to National Rail, until 10am, so not much of disruption for us
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 07:13
Line Closures has now been updated, make sure guys to double check the rules especially before game starts at approximately 9am
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Hi, on my way! Luckily the train I needed was running as the next one is cancelled
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@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb is there the potential to get to zone 6 for this challenge? Weighing up whether it's worth it to buy a travel card
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@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb is there the potential to get to zone 6 for this challenge? Weighing up whether it's worth it to buy a travel card
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 07:29
Depends if you have an oyster or not
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I have an oyster with a 16-25 discount
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 07:30
I think oysters are more beneficial if you're residing locally.
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There is potential to go to Zone 6 for extreme points, right?
07:31
(I just get a National Rail Travelcard)
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MediocreLogarithm257 17/08/2024 07:31
I think reaching zone 6 is pretty likely with the list of bonus locations
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 07:31
But yeah, game area will be zones 1-6, unless maybe your oyster doesn't cover specific zones?
07:31
A lot of the challenges should be easier to complete than last game (edited)
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I'll probably just get one as a travel card includes buses too
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This is kind of belated on my part, but I just realised that battles let you steal (oops). The app does not support stealing, BUT we can sort this out with the handy undo option I think
07:35
Helpdesk can action it
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MediocreLogarithm257 17/08/2024 07:35
Okay
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(Undo the stolen from team's challenge and complete it for the other team)
07:36
I think we should share the map of bonus locations if we haven't already
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MediocreLogarithm257 17/08/2024 07:37
Sure. Will do it once I get home (remind me if I haven’t)
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07:39
Was there any change of locations since I last updated the map?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 07:39
Does it need to be shared now?
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MediocreLogarithm257
Was there any change of locations since I last updated the map?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 07:40
Don't think so in the past couple days at least, I'd double check in case
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No changes I'm aware of
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Does it need to be shared now?
People on both teams have already seen it so seems fair enough everyone should
07:41
It will be open information on game start
07:41
Just not in convenient map format
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MediocreLogarithm257 17/08/2024 07:42
Actually, I can do it now
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MediocreLogarithm257
Actually, I can do it now
Also I DMed you with app stuff if you're available to share things to teams shortly before the game start (and to Helpdesk now)
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 08:01
Just a reminder, there will be no briefing on VC to help save time, plus my headphones isn't working rn
08:01
So I'll probably start briefing the Helpdesk on text.
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Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 08:01
Ok
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 08:06
Right now I'm on my way.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 08:38
Just got off the tube
08:38
Anyone arrived yet?
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I just got off the bus.
08:38
I think I see grey benches.
08:39
I see lots of them everywhere.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 08:39
I'm now sitting in one of them, the one closest to Costa
08:40
Or that kings cross square cafe
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At KGX, just grabbing a drink if I have time
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 08:42
Ok
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@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb what are you wearing
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 08:44
We're by that kings cross square cafe
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Yes but there are multiple cafes
08:44
pret and black sheep
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 08:44
Pret a manger
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Standing under this sign.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 08:46
Don't mind me being on there at some awkward moment
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@MediocreLogarithm257 Maybe share the links in the team channels around now? But people shouldn't choose to start the game, we'll do that at the actual start (running a few minutes behind)
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MediocreLogarithm257 17/08/2024 08:54
Sure
08:54
Which channels are public to players?
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Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 08:55
This and #game-announcements are the only one everyone can see.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 08:55
@geordie
08:55
Where are you?
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Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 08:56
Tracker shows he's about 50yd from you
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But team links should be in the team channels and helpdesk only
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Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 09:05
Teams ready?
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@Players
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MediocreLogarithm257 17/08/2024 09:07
Good luck everyone
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 09:08
We can start at 9:10?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
We can start at 9:10?
Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 09:08
Ok
09:08
If everyone on the ground agrees?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 09:08
Ok
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MediocreLogarithm257 17/08/2024 09:08
When's the rest period?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 09:08
And finish at 6:10pm
09:08
Also breaks
09:09
2 hour window between 12:30pm to 2:30pm
09:09
Any team can start breaks between those team.
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Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 09:11
Heads up, we will also announce when a team breaks in #game-announcements
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 09:15
How do we claim the challenges?
09:15
Almost forgot
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In the app? Tap on it one helpdesk confirm
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Mithent
In the app? Tap on it one helpdesk confirm
Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 09:17
I can see a confirm button, but there's a slight issue once it's been pinned. Team 1 have completed Chew Chew Choo but I can't mark it as complete
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MediocreLogarithm257 17/08/2024 09:17
Seems to be pinned by team 2 already
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Well, I had it pinned
09:17
So they can't do it
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Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 09:19
Ah so you must Pin the challenge in order to complete it?
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MediocreLogarithm257 17/08/2024 09:19
You don't have to, but you run the risk of the other team pinning/completing it if you don't pin it (edited)
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 09:33
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 09:49
Would it be better for all claimed challenges to be announced?
09:49
Just a question
09:49
Up to you guys though (edited)
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Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 09:50
You'll notice in the app anyway?
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It shows in the app with a colored border
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 09:51
You mean pin?
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Yes
09:51
And once claimed it is removed from the list
09:52
Though if you prefer it to be announced here that is possible as well
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 09:52
Ah, but we don't see the challenges completed
09:52
Just we claim it and that's it?
09:52
And yes, I mean for both teams challenges.
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You see your completed ones in the tickets tab
09:54
Not the other team's
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 09:55
Ok
09:56
I did accidentally pressed one of the challenges which I fixed now
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That will have expanded the flop but it is what it is
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For connecting to our network, how close do you accept by the way?
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Ten minutes walking distance max
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 10:36
Just a heads up, make sure to show the bus route that you've claimed as well before getting on, or at least notify
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The flop isn't working for us is it just us?
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Also isn't working for us
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Hope you guys are enjoying Kew gardens btw
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yeah that seems to have reset
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MediocreLogarithm257 17/08/2024 12:09
The flop seems to have been reset
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Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 12:10
Umm... I have no idea what happened there
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I mean the tickets seem unaffected at least
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Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 12:10
And the locations
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@Mithent do you know of any button that causes the flops to self-destruct?
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I do not, not sure what happened
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I guess we just hit start game and hope for the best
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MediocreLogarithm257 17/08/2024 12:11
Does pressing start game again reset the tickets?
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The flop update was always the risky part
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MediocreLogarithm257
Does pressing start game again reset the tickets?
It should not
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Should we all screenshot what we've had and put them in our team channels
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Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 12:11
We should kep a record of the surrent state
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and if things go really really bad we could do a manual flop I guess
12:11
on the server
12:12
Hitting start game does not do anything
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jammy
Should we all screenshot what we've had and put them in our team channels
Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 12:12
Yes
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Alright done for us
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I may be able to recover but will take time
12:14
is it too early for the lunch break?
12:15
we could do a combined one as soon as both teams are in a good spot
12:15
if the tech issues are going to take a bit to resolve
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@ratt we could take a lunch break at 12:30, but we are on a mode of transport so would rather have some notice before it happens
12:17
I'll send more in team channel
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I think I can recover from the failed flop over lunch
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it doesn't really matter once the lunch break starts because we were going to reset the flop then anyway I think
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You won't be able to do that without destroying tickets and location info
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 12:21
Got an idea
12:22
Why not we just customize the flop?
12:22
Like manually?
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I was thinking of doing that
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 12:22
For the time being.
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moving it off the app
12:22
helpdesk handle it
12:22
in a discord channel
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 12:23
And any challenges that appear on the app when it's back can be claimed straight from their respective teams.
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If you give me a manual flop (please with IDs) that's really what I need to try reentering
12:24
45, 58, 63 and 67 are pinned
12:25
(look at ID column not row number)
12:28
Flop is fixed!
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12:29
@Helpdesk
12:29
If it happens again I now have a plan
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Looks like teams need to repin challenges, is that correct?
12:30
nvm I was reading it wrong
12:33
@Team 1 @Team 2 Looks like there's a little confusion over how long the break should be. Would everyone prefer a 30 minute or 1 hour break?
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2 30 min breaks?
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If both teams agree
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We agree that's fine.
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@Team 1 Please confirm if you're happy with this arrangement as a team
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Confirm
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@Team 1 Watch out! (edited)
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Jemma
@Team 1 Watch out! (edited)
we're not team 2!
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MediocreLogarithm257 17/08/2024 13:33
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Misclick. Team 1 watch out!
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I'm very relieved the flop worked
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 14:06
@ratt there's no claim as we didn't use a ticket
14:06
Just branching out
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@geordie are you guys existing
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Yes we’re at Ealing Broadway
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
@ratt there's no claim as we didn't use a ticket
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 14:24
@ratt (edited)
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@ratt (edited)
sorry, getting round to this. So you're travelling but this journey is not part of your network, correct?
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Yes as we branched
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 14:25
Yes, we're not using a ticket for this
14:25
So no claim
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 15:54
NOTE: Jubilee line is partly closed due to signal failure.
15:54
Between London Bridge and North Greenwich (edited)
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@Fahmi Sack no jubilee at all btw
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jammy
@Fahmi Sack no jubilee at all btw
Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 16:12
Is the entire line closed?
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Fahmi Sack
Is the entire line closed?
From what I hear in station yes
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Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 16:16
That update is not live on the TfL website yet, regardless, you may still claim the Jubilee line via any reasonable route.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 17:15
Sorry guys if you saw that someone typed in a channel when not supposed to
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 18:04
We've made it + one more challenge
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chop chop @Team 2
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 18:05
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We are waiting outside where we started.
18:06
Where are you? (edited)
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 18:13
Sorry we trolled haha
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Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 18:26
@Players Go ahead and find a pub. We'll release the results once you're settled.
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@Fahmi Sack we're ready
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jammy
@Fahmi Sack we're ready
Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 18:40
We're not.
18:41
is there a rough time estimate
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fairly soon
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Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 18:41
It's about the 4 pointer, we just need to make a decision.
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we're still arguing about the 4 point bonus
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Will you break down who got what bonuses and such as well as the scores?
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Jemma
Will you break down who got what bonuses and such as well as the scores?
Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 18:42
Yes.
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Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 18:58
Have Team 2 broken the curse??
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I'm going to grab food before my train so won't see you all again but it's been a great game today. Thanks for all everyone for organising it was really fun. Hope to join again another time!
19:03
And thanks to all the help desk for everything behind the scenes today too!
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@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb I just realised I still have your notebook oops
19:09
If you want, I can post it you
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jammy
@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb I just realised I still have your notebook oops
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 19:10
That's fine, you keep. I have a couple more.
19:11
Or you can send back next game (idk, I'm London based fyi)
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Or you can send back next game (idk, I'm London based fyi)
Yeah I'm London based so I'll be at another one
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MediocreLogarithm257 17/08/2024 19:22
Time to sleep. Good night
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MediocreLogarithm257
Time to sleep. Good night
Fahmi Sack 17/08/2024 19:22
Night!!
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Thanks for everything!!
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My train left on time and I'm on my way back to Birmingham. Look forward to the next game with you all!
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Thanks for all your work on helpdesk also!
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help desk are the true heroes
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 20:16
Welp we've fully parted at least.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 20:39
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Mithent was there haha
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Is that the subterranean KFC?
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Mithent
Is that the subterranean KFC?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 17/08/2024 21:06
The underground KFC
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Thanks guys for today I had a lot of fun
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MediocreLogarithm257 19/08/2024 11:35
Me, just before the flop broke: -# Didn't finish that video during the game
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I'm glad it worked the other times!
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I tried rewriting and updating the Ticket to Ride rules in case we do this format again: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DYtrtlU0up5hzjpBYsFGgd7UtL_IqIyLImuzIIS6qbo/edit?usp=sharing
Jet Lag UK: Ticket to Ride Objective To claim an unbroken sequence of scheduled transport routes from a start location to various reward locations across the play area. Each reward location has a point value - the harder it is to reach from the start location, the more points it rewards. Reachin...
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I made some rule changes:
  • Changed wildcards so losing the challenge is a negative for your team
  • Changed claiming the entirety of bus lines to claiming sections, like how trains worked
  • Added a negotiation phase before the game starts to decide initial pinned challenges.
  • Changed and rebalanced bonuses entirely
  • Replaced the two 30-minute breaks with one 45-minute break.
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I would also either prevent pinning of battle/wildcard challenges or add two to the flop, otherwise one team can lock out that type of challenge (edited)
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