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General chat for all players and helpdesk! Good idea to avoid talking team strategy here.
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Fahmi Sack 27/11/2024 19:44
@Players

Welcome to BFZ1

Please find the rules and some challenges attached (helpdesk will have an additional briefing message shortly)! Once assigned, each team will have a Team Chat and a Verification channel. Please use the Team Chat to communicate with helpdesk as this channel is available to all players and helpdesk. Updates throughout the game will be posted in #game-announcements by helpdesk. Please take the time you have to fully understand the rules, use this channel to discuss/question. There is also a #deleted-channel available to all - if necessary helpdesk will drag you to a private channel if you need to

Important information

  • Scheduled game time is 09:00 - 18:00 with a mandatory break from 13:00 - 14:00. Please arrive in good time.
  • Start and End meeting point is Piccadilly Circus Underground Station.
  • At least one member of each team will need to share their live location to helpdesk
  • Please bring some from of ID if possible, as it may be needed during and after the game Good luck and have fun!
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I recommend all players dress for wind and rain. London is forecast to get the tail end of Storm Darragh on Saturday and it looks as if there is likely to be rain through a lot of the day.
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It is only the tail end and the storm is hitting the west coast mainly, but there is nevertheless a yellow weather warning for wind in effect, as well as a 90%+ chance of rain predicted in central London consistently though the day
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 05/12/2024 21:15
@dabus21 @Mithent @Meerko @freya @verumIgnis @LouisOnAir @Joe Just doing final checks that you're ok.
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Fahmi Sack 05/12/2024 21:41
@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb RE: https://discord.com/channels/1059625399979606166/1059625400537452651/1314339528311312454 Piccadilly Circus. There was no concrete consensus to change the starting location. (edited)
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Fahmi Sack
@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb RE: https://discord.com/channels/1059625399979606166/1059625400537452651/1314339528311312454 Piccadilly Circus. There was no concrete consensus to change the starting location. (edited)
That's not a public channel
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ratt
That's not a public channel
Fahmi Sack 05/12/2024 21:43
I thought he was talking about tomorrows game. Apologies
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Fahmi Sack
I thought he was talking about tomorrows game. Apologies
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 05/12/2024 21:44
Saturday* not tomorrow
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21:49
I'd also advise briefing the Helpdesk around an hour before 9am BST on Saturday.
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Fahmi Sack 05/12/2024 21:49
@Players I'm happy to host a player briefing tomorrow if you wish to clear up anything you may be unsure of. I'll be available from 06 December 2024 13:00. If you'd like a briefing tomorrow, ping me and I'll join https://discord.com/channels/1059625399979606166/1310666252074750002
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
I'd also advise briefing the Helpdesk around an hour before 9am BST on Saturday.
Fahmi Sack 05/12/2024 21:49
A Helpdesk briefing is scheduled tomorrow too. If you're helpdesk, feel free to jump into the player briefings too!
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Can't make it at that time but probably in the evening
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i’ll try join
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Can’t join briefing unfortunately
22:37
I’ll try to be there early
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Fahmi Sack
@Players I'm happy to host a player briefing tomorrow if you wish to clear up anything you may be unsure of. I'll be available from 06 December 2024 13:00. If you'd like a briefing tomorrow, ping me and I'll join https://discord.com/channels/1059625399979606166/1310666252074750002
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 05/12/2024 22:38
Ideally, an evening time would be better, especially as it's a weekday.
22:38
Pretty sure most have jobs/uni
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Fahmi Sack 05/12/2024 22:38
Just ping me anytime.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 05/12/2024 22:39
I can try and hop in around 7pmish after work.
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Fahmi Sack 05/12/2024 22:39
There's a Helpdesk briefing from 17:00 too in case helpdesk have anything they'd want to discuss
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When do we get our teams btw or is that a secret
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dabus21
When do we get our teams btw or is that a secret
Fahmi Sack 06/12/2024 12:41
Due to a player dropping out last minute, @FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb will need to re-do the teams. Its not a secret, and he will announce them soon.
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Fahmi Sack 06/12/2024 13:23
Just a reminder: If anyone would like a briefing, I'll be available from now - just ping me
Fahmi Sack pinned a message to this channel. 06/12/2024 13:24
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raining tomorrow btw
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If you say it might not be worth bothering, remember that some people have come from elsewhere in the country and had already booked train tickets weeks in advance
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Joe
If you say it might not be worth bothering, remember that some people have come from elsewhere in the country and had already booked train tickets weeks in advance
The game is going ahead, we've not let some rain stop us before. Just pack for wet weather and potentially horizontal rain.
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8 players is a perfectly respectable number, we're not cancelling don't worry
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Fahmi Sack 06/12/2024 16:21
Rain and a 1 person drop-out is not a reason to cancel the game. Its going ahead
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Joe
If you say it might not be worth bothering, remember that some people have come from elsewhere in the country and had already booked train tickets weeks in advance
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/12/2024 16:32
What I meant is I would've contested it since it was last minute and can be a bit annoying but cannot be helped. Hence why it's not worth bothering.
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Ah I see, I misinterpreted sorry (edited)
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LouisOnAir 06/12/2024 18:34
Excited for tomorrow. Where are we meeting?
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LouisOnAir
Excited for tomorrow. Where are we meeting?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/12/2024 18:34
#main-announcements
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/12/2024 18:51
@Players @Fahmi Sack Anyone wanna hop on VC around 7:15pm? I'm able to leave from work so should be more available for anything that might need to be done last minute.
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@Players @Fahmi Sack Anyone wanna hop on VC around 7:15pm? I'm able to leave from work so should be more available for anything that might need to be done last minute.
Fahmi Sack 06/12/2024 18:52
I'm available. Just ping me if you'd like a briefing
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Sadly I was delayed by 3 hours by the train chaos this morning so I won't be able to make it until like 9:30pm
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Joe
Sadly I was delayed by 3 hours by the train chaos this morning so I won't be able to make it until like 9:30pm
Fahmi Sack 06/12/2024 18:53
I'm also available then πŸ˜‚
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/12/2024 18:59
@verumIgnis Are you still playing?
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I'm not available, but I think I know the rules
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In London, all of the Royal Parks will close on Saturday which includes the popular Winter Wonderland attraction in Hyde Park.
Just seen this on the BBC, hopefully won't affect any of the challenges
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Joe
In London, all of the Royal Parks will close on Saturday which includes the popular Winter Wonderland attraction in Hyde Park.
Just seen this on the BBC, hopefully won't affect any of the challenges
Fahmi Sack 06/12/2024 19:06
Helpdesk will make easements/amendments if necessary. We'll figure it out.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/12/2024 19:21
I'm in VC now
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LouisOnAir
Excited for tomorrow. Where are we meeting?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/12/2024 19:22
You're probably the one to watch for travelling, considering you're from south coast.
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@Fahmi Sack
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
@verumIgnis Are you still playing?
verumIgnis 06/12/2024 19:41
Yes, I'll be there tmr
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/12/2024 19:46
Draft Team Lineups 1: @FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb @Joe 2: @dabus21 @verumIgnis @LouisOnAir 3: @Mithent @Meerko @fr.eya
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Reading through the challenges and wondering what I've got myself into πŸ˜‚
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Joe
Reading through the challenges and wondering what I've got myself into πŸ˜‚
Fahmi Sack 06/12/2024 19:51
Remember, you're only seeing some of the challenges... Helpdesk will be assigning the actual challenge for you to complete - which could be a random one from a hidden list!
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/12/2024 19:52
@riri I need to double confirm you as not attending.
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Yep it's 50/50, who knows whether those hidden ones are better or worse lol
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Fahmi Sack 06/12/2024 19:52
helpdesk do
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Draft Team Lineups 1: @FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb @Joe 2: @dabus21 @verumIgnis @LouisOnAir 3: @Mithent @Meerko @fr.eya
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/12/2024 19:53
NOTES: I initially had Verum and Riri in Team 1, but following a potential dropout from Riri, I ended up swapping Verum with Earth.
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guys is it reccomended to buy a day travel pass for this?
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Are you travelling on National Rail to get there? It is worth it for me
22:17
(as part of the NR ticket)
22:17
Otherwise you will definitely hit the daily cap, though I don't think that requires you actually buy a travelcard ticket (actually a paper ticket is more likely to get demagnetised) (edited)
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Meerko
guys is it reccomended to buy a day travel pass for this?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/12/2024 22:22
Depends where you're travelling from? Are you from London?
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I am! zone 3/ Wood Green, was just thinking going between so many stations might end up costing a bunch
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Nah it'll be capped
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/12/2024 22:24
Considering you're from Zone 3, cap would be even cheaper compared to mine.
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I'll be playing the hoping my ticket keeps working game
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ooh okay just checked yeah would be capped at £9.60 i’m fine lol
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I'm just using my debit card MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/12/2024 22:25
I actually live not terribly close from Wood Green and will go with my oyster PAYG.
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Though I shame I won't use my free Travelcard.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Though I shame I won't use my free Travelcard.
why can’t you use your free travel card?
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I've only just got to the Airbnb after having been delayed by a cumulative 3h45m by the trains and buses. Is it too late to do the VC thing? xD
22:28
Honestly, network rail couldn't have picked a worse day to break their radio system in Stoke for me πŸ˜‚
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Meerko
why can’t you use your free travel card?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/12/2024 22:28
It's a different travelcard that covers only parts of the rail network, mainly around the Essex, Hertfordshire and Cambridgeshire (edited)
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Last time I booked a ticket I had to pick up I ran into LNER insisting on you using the same card, and that card on your phone doesn't work either (virtual number)... fortunately I managed to get all the way to London to an open ticket office and they printed it for me
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Joe
I've only just got to the Airbnb after having been delayed by a cumulative 3h45m by the trains and buses. Is it too late to do the VC thing? xD
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/12/2024 22:29
@Fahmi Sack I suspect you are asleep now?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
It's a different travelcard that covers only parts of the rail network, mainly around the Essex, Hertfordshire and Cambridgeshire (edited)
ohhh right fairs that makes sense
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It's alright, I can be briefed in the morning if needs be
22:30
I'm coming from zone 3 so I'll be leaving at 8am
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is the trocadero exit kinda obvious in the station?
22:31
i haven’t been picadilly circus in a while
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oh also how do i spot you guys? lol
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Well, to get to Piccadilly Circus on time I'll need to be on a train about 7am
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/12/2024 22:46
@ellasophia2004
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Is there anything we need to bring other than like phone and money and waterproofs? I'm probably going to put my rucksack (which has some heavy things in it) in a stasher (edited)
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
@Fahmi Sack I suspect you are asleep now?
Fahmi Sack 06/12/2024 22:48
No I'm awake
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Joe
Is there anything we need to bring other than like phone and money and waterproofs? I'm probably going to put my rucksack (which has some heavy things in it) in a stasher (edited)
Fahmi Sack 06/12/2024 22:49
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22:49
@Joe do you want to be briefed tonight or tomorrow?
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if we do now I'll have to be quiet because I don't want to disturb the airbnb hosts
22:50
but sure now is probably better
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Fahmi Sack 06/12/2024 22:51
Ok let me quickly wash my hands an I'll get onto a VC
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/12/2024 23:19
Lol so v3rtico decided to sign up as player despite living in Europe πŸ˜‚
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Max (v3rtico) 06/12/2024 23:22
I live in Germany so to experience anything enjoyable with public transport I have to go to other countries anyway πŸ˜„
23:23
But I couldn't make it to London for tomorrow so I am just on the helpdesk this time
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Fahmi Sack 06/12/2024 23:24
There was discussion a while ago to create a game in Germany with the D-ticket but it quickly fell apart due to a cost constraint.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/12/2024 23:27
I think barchti from Germany is still here. Probably best guy to ask about it.
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Fahmi Sack 06/12/2024 23:28
Also means we have 3 Germans, so a 3 player game in Germany is now on the radar
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Max (v3rtico) 06/12/2024 23:28
German public transport is horribly unreliable. I don't think I would enjoy playing Jetlag if it was in Germany
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Max (v3rtico)
German public transport is horribly unreliable. I don't think I would enjoy playing Jetlag if it was in Germany
Fahmi Sack 06/12/2024 23:29
Agreed with the ICE, but my local Verkehrsbund does a decent job at it
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Max (v3rtico) 06/12/2024 23:31
Mine is not. Going to work would take me 45 minutes if the connection would work but most of the times it is delayed so I would have to catch the next train and the journey would take 1h 15m.
23:31
(I take the car, it is 15 minutes)
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Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 00:10
Teams assigned!
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Joe
Is there anything we need to bring other than like phone and money and waterproofs? I'm probably going to put my rucksack (which has some heavy things in it) in a stasher (edited)
Take a phone charger
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The train I needed to get there on time for 8:30 has been cancelled. I hope I'll still get there for 9am
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It is hella windy
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Ok I’m on my way to the station now
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My train is further delayed, I almost surely won't be there on time. You can start without me and I'll catch up with my team if necessary?
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What time will you arrive now
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Hard to say until closer, probably between 9:15 and 9:30 to Piccadilly Circus
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 07:26
Uh oh
07:27
Looks like I'll be an hour late
07:28
Weather is mad
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LouisOnAir 07/12/2024 07:29
I'm on a train leaving Brighton now, so far on time
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verumIgnis
Uh oh
where are you coming from?
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Joe
where are you coming from?
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 07:29
AVP
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what's that lol
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 07:30
Aylesbury Vale parkway
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oh okay yeah that's reasonably far away
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 07:31
Its that random ass station at the end of (what's left of) the GCML that gets half the savice of the other stations (edited)
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I am now on a train, so that's good, though it's a good 40 minutes later than intended
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Mithent
I am now on a train, so that's good, though it's a good 40 minutes later than intended
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 07:34
Oof You won't be as late as me at least
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There's a 40mph speed limit on the line though so I might be!
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Mithent
I am now on a train, so that's good, though it's a good 40 minutes later than intended
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 07:34
Are you on GA?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Are you on GA?
GN
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good night to you too!
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 07:35
Kinda surprised there wasn't even a GA alternative
07:35
Anyways, my train came on time
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verumIgnis
Uh oh
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 07:36
Is there another alternative other than train?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Is there another alternative other than train?
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 07:37
Walk to Aylesbury and hope there's one via Wycombe? Hell no not in this weather
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Kinda surprised there wasn't even a GA alternative
Not from Ely to London. I could switch to the LST train at Cambridge but not sure if that will help
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verumIgnis
Walk to Aylesbury and hope there's one via Wycombe? Hell no not in this weather
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 07:37
It would likely only save me 10-15 min anyway
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 07:38
I guess we could delay our start time from 9am
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 07:39
I don't mind you guys starting without me
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verumIgnis
Walk to Aylesbury and hope there's one via Wycombe? Hell no not in this weather
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 07:39
I mean, you could check it in realtimettrains in case.
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Yeah I wouldn’t mind delaying
07:39
I’m on time
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dabus21
Yeah I wouldn’t mind delaying
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 07:40
Didn't you say you have to go at 6?
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Oh yeah but wasn’t 10-6 an option anyway
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 07:40
That's seemingly without the hour break.
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I have to get to drury lane by 6:45 so idk what works
07:41
Maybe shorten the break?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 07:42
I'll probably hop on VC when I arrive at Piccadilly Circus
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What time would that be?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 07:43
Probably in around 20-30 mins
07:45
Hopping on tube now
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Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 07:45
If we delay then we'll need to re-consider game/break times. Ideally game time should be equal either side of the break
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
I mean, you could check it in realtimettrains in case.
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 07:48
Turns out my train ran from Aylesbury and they never updated the public APIs so RTT never picked it up
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verumIgnis
Turns out my train ran from Aylesbury and they never updated the public APIs so RTT never picked it up
Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 07:49
Wait so it's it actually cancelled?
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Changing train would only help if the West Anglia Main Line line doesn't have reduced speed limits I guess
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Fahmi Sack
Wait so it's it actually cancelled?
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 07:49
They cancelled running it to Aylesbury Vale parkway because drivers based in Banbury aren't allowed to run the route, and there's a driver shortage of London drivers (edited)
07:51
If they had updated the public APIs I would have been able to get to Aylesbury on time
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Oh, my intended train actually ran from Cambridge, only cancelled from Ely
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Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 07:51
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God save us all
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Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 07:52
Wonder what would have happened to me if I came down to play because I live in Middlesbrough
07:53
Although I would have taken the coach and arrived about 1.5h ago
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It looks like trains south of Cambridge are not losing time so the speed restriction may just be the Fen Line (I hope!)
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MediocreLogarithm257 07/12/2024 08:05
What's going on with the weather?
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There's a storm, it's very windy
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Mithent
There's a storm, it's very windy
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 08:09
Absolutely chucking it down here
08:12
Weather in London: (edited)
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Fun
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 08:13
I've arrived now (edited)
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My train seems to have sped up south of Cambridge though
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 08:13
Currently finding it hard to sit where I can plug into VC
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i’m about to go and get on the tube at waterloo so should be there in 10ish mins
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ellasophia2004 07/12/2024 08:15
I’m just heading off now eta 8:45 needed to run back to get my umbrella
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
I've arrived now (edited)
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 08:15
I haven't even left Still just waiting at the station πŸ’€
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ETA around 9:15 currently for me
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verumIgnis
I haven't even left Still just waiting at the station πŸ’€
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 08:16
Apparently it's not even storm related
08:16
ETA: 10:00 (maybe 10:05 if I'm unlucky with tubes)
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Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 08:17
I'm concerned about starting without Team 3 having an experienced player... if I'm not mistaken
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verumIgnis
Apparently it's not even storm related
If my intended train hadn't been cancelled for my station I'd have been on time despite the storm too
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Fahmi Sack
I'm concerned about starting without Team 3 having an experienced player... if I'm not mistaken
I will very likely be there before 9:30 I think
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 08:19
I'm currently in VC if anyone wants to join.
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I’m at Waterloo now
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i’m here!
08:24
08:24
can my team get a 2 minute head start for being the first here
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Meerko
can my team get a 2 minute head start for being the first here
Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 08:24
Technically @FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb was there first πŸ˜‚
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Meerko
Click to see attachment πŸ–ΌοΈ
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 08:25
Bruh you got there before I even left
08:27
Idk if it's a good sign or a bad sign that there's 3 rail replacement buses on standby outside
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verumIgnis
Idk if it's a good sign or a bad sign that there's 3 rail replacement buses on standby outside
Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 08:28
Ask if they go to london, might save you some time?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 08:28
Earth and Meerko and I are now together
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Fahmi Sack
Ask if they go to london, might save you some time?
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 08:28
Their on standby in case the trains have major issues (edited)
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I’m here wya
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Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 08:31
@Players Due to Team 3 potentially starting with no experienced players at 09:00, helpdesk have agreed to offer a delayed start with the following revised game times out of fairness: 09:30 - 13:30, 14:30 - 18:00 If there are no objections, and enough players agreeing by 08:50, we will then delay the game accordingly. (edited)
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 08:32
I'm good with it, there's no way I'm making those times anyway
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Draft Team Lineups 1: @FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb @Joe 2: @dabus21 @verumIgnis @LouisOnAir 3: @Mithent @Meerko @fr.eya
MediocreLogarithm257 07/12/2024 08:34
Can you also post this on #game-announcements ?
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My train is still losing a little time but 9:30 is still seeming possible at the moment (but I'll not be there massively before then)
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 08:40
Its 8:40 and there no train here
08:40
Great
08:41
It still shows as on time...
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verumIgnis
Its 8:40 and there no train here
Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 08:42
According to RTT, your train is just about to pull into AVP
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LouisOnAir 07/12/2024 08:43
I just changed at London Bridge so I'll be there soon
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 08:44
Ellasophia just arrived
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verumIgnis
Click to see attachment πŸ–ΌοΈ
Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 08:46
I have some bad news. It seems the train reversed at Ayelsbury and is making its way back to London (edited)
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Fahmi Sack
I have some bad news. It seems the train reversed at Ayelsbury and is making its way back to London (edited)
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 08:46
Fucks sake
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Fahmi Sack
According to RTT, your train is just about to pull into AVP
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 08:46
Are they in bold format.
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Wow, you're much closer than I live, wouldn't have expected so much trouble
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Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 08:48
Then I may be mistaken.
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 08:49
The arriving train just stopped at ays?
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Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 08:50
Wouldn't it be worth you going to AYS to guarantee a train at least?
08:50
Idk, you're the one on the ground
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 08:50
My train got cancelled AGAIN
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Huh
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Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 08:52
@Mithent status?
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verumIgnis
My train got cancelled AGAIN
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 08:52
I suggest checking buses tbh.
08:53
Not sure how we could assist him.
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 08:53
They are running a bus
08:54
A tree fell on the line
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Fahmi Sack
@Mithent status?
Train gained a little time, hoping to be there about 9:15 still
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 08:55
Yay!
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(it'll be one of these times it's a couple of minutes short of the next Delay Repay thresholds, hah)
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Mithent
(it'll be one of these times it's a couple of minutes short of the next Delay Repay thresholds, hah)
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 08:56
Nope 50% ticket value
08:56
Exactly 1 hour
08:57
I think they are gonna hold the 8:40 at ays for us
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Quick question about the rules. The rules contain a map without the Elizabeth line on it. Are two stations still considered adjacent if they're only connected via the Elizabeth line?
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At KGX
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Joe
Quick question about the rules. The rules contain a map without the Elizabeth line on it. Are two stations still considered adjacent if they're only connected via the Elizabeth line?
MediocreLogarithm257 07/12/2024 09:02
They aren't. Only Tube connections
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Joe
Quick question about the rules. The rules contain a map without the Elizabeth line on it. Are two stations still considered adjacent if they're only connected via the Elizabeth line?
Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 09:02
No. But you may use the Elizabeth line to travel to a station.
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Aha. As a non-Londoner I considered the Elizabeth line as part of the tube πŸ˜‚
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Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 09:02
Same applies to NR/Overground
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MediocreLogarithm257 07/12/2024 09:04
No more cable cars btw πŸ€”
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They're only cutting hours in the morning?
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Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 09:08
@Players Something we hadn't considered: For Leicester Square, M&M World opens at 10am. If you attempt Leicester Square before, and you are given the M&M challenge, you may acquire a pack of M&Ms from the surrounding area. Proof will still be required.
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Could we post the rules and challenges in the announcements?
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Mithent
Could we post the rules and challenges in the announcements?
Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 09:08
They're pinned in this channel
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Also we didn't discuss it, but I guess running a tracker for the benefit of Helpdesk could have been something to consider
09:11
I'm one stop away
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Once your here let’s go
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dabus21
Once your here let’s go
Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 09:12
09:30
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Aye
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 09:15
2 hours since I left and I've gone 1 stop
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 09:22
This train gets to myb 10 min later than another one, but this one is actually at the station and the other one isn't so I'm taking this one
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MediocreLogarithm257 07/12/2024 09:30
Good luck!
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 09:30
Good luck y'all I'll be there soonβ„’
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 09:35
FUCKING FINALLY LETSGOOOOO
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 09:50
All the trains going the other way are cancelled
09:51
Maybe I get stranded in London today...
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hopefully they do clear the tree
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 09:54
The tree is down between ays and avp
09:55
No idea why the Oxford trains are cancelled
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suddenly glad I didn't push forward and try to get to the game, as well. Getting up at close to 6AM and then not even making it for close to the game start would've been awful
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 09:57
Yeah it sucks Assuming nothing else happens I'll be there at about 11
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 09:58
Are you still on the turbo?
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Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 10:02
If teams wish to give themselves Team names feel free...
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Are you still on the turbo?
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 10:03
Yep, just passing hwy
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 10:36
Cool old rolling stock
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 10:49
1962 most likely
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 11:36
@verumIgnis you arrived?
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 11:36
Yes!
11:37
Just waiting for them
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 12:28
Who tagged me in team 2 verification?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Who tagged me in team 2 verification?
Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 12:29
I think we intended to tag team 2, probably a mistake
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How’s it going
13:39
My hands are numb
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my feet are numb
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Do we have a plan for meeting up after, incidentally?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 13:48
Sounds like team 2 have completed their lineup.
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Do we have a plan for meeting up after, incidentally?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 13:52
Tbh that's probably up to us tbh
13:52
Was initially thinking like a good food court rather than a pub (edited)
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I have an idea for team 2 and team 3 strategy
13:59
Y'all don't want to be the ones with only task metro challenges right?
13:59
So how bout y'all just don't do any challenges?
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So how bout y'all just don't do any challenges?
hmm great idea, well we’re done for the day
14:00
no more challenges from us
14:01
we’re gonna chill for the next 5 hours
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it’s true
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Joe
Y'all don't want to be the ones with only task metro challenges right?
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 14:16
Agreed, we will be doing nothing for the rest of the game
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ellasophia2004 07/12/2024 14:17
Think of the warmth guys
14:17
It’ll only be us stuck in the rain
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verumIgnis
Agreed, we will be doing nothing for the rest of the game
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 14:19
Considering you barely just played since like an hour ago?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Considering you barely just played since like an hour ago?
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 14:19
I'm joking πŸ™‚
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 14:19
Also all teams, you want the pics of yourselves sent on main chat? (edited)
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Just as a reminder, you guys are all still welcome to name your teams
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We are team free
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14:29
Gl with that on your vc
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 14:31
I saw you Dabus
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this is the second time team 2 have revealed their location in public before hastily deleting it πŸ‘€
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It’s not that important
15:19
hi guys
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 15:36
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 17:25
@Fahmi Sack is this game finishing at 18:30 correct? (edited)
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
@Fahmi Sack is this game finishing at 18:30 correct? (edited)
Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 17:25
No, 18:00
17:26
Actually lets do a vote
17:26
@Players Please DM helpdesk or your team channel if you would like 18:15, 18:30 or 18:00 as end time (edited)
17:31
Initially we had an end time of 18:00, but this has now been extended to 18:15 by unanimous vote.
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battle for Z1?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 18:18
What we doing now afterwards?
18:18
Wetherspoons or Food court?
18:19
I'd say the latter
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 18:20
Food court is my preferred
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We are at Victoria ourselves
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@Team 1 @Team 2 where you guys at? for a meet up
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Platform 7
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I have to go now
18:20
Wait were here
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ellasophia2004 07/12/2024 18:20
We’re still at Vauxhall
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Same
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LouisOnAir 07/12/2024 18:20
We're on platform 7
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We knew you were near Victoria there so we came here
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playform 7 where?
18:21
there is a food hall on vauxhall actually
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Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 18:21
Vauxhall station was just evacuated wasn't it?
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was it?!
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We can go to Vauxhall if it's not evacuated
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MediocreLogarithm257 07/12/2024 18:22
Vauxhall (Underground) is closed because of a fire alert apparently (edited)
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The national rail part of it isn't closed
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we can take a bus there
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We're on our way to waterloo
18:24
My train back up north is in an hour and a half and I need to get my bag back from Piccadilly circus
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Do you want us to go to Waterloo then?
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Where are you now?
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we’re at victoria
18:25
i personally would love to go to waterloo or vauxhall so i can go home lmaooo
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Yeah come to Waterloo if possible
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LouisOnAir 07/12/2024 18:26
Yup
18:27
Yup
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Be there soon, we are at Westminster
18:34
sorry
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Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 18:34
@Mithent just doesn't lose does he?
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okay cool we’ll go waterloo
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Fahmi Sack
@Mithent just doesn't lose does he?
I didn't win the last battle for Z1!
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congrats on 2nd place guys
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Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 18:34
Oh, thought you did
18:34
What a comeback from Team 1 though
18:39
@Team 1 @Team 2 Mind asking why neither of you went to Westminster right at the end??
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@Team 1 @Team 2 where are you guys?
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ellasophia2004 07/12/2024 18:41
We’re just at popeyes on the outside of Waterloo
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Fahmi Sack
@Team 1 @Team 2 Mind asking why neither of you went to Westminster right at the end??
ellasophia2004 07/12/2024 18:42
Possibilities of getting more stations with Victoria line
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i desperately need to go home and crash so i’ve just hopped on my train at waterloo but it was lovely to meet you all, i enjoyed playing!! i hope everyone else had fun too :)
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Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 18:57
Congratulations to @Team 3 on their victory today! This Category and your roles will remain for a few days so you'll get the chance to debrief together and with your teams, before archiving and open to all. A huge thanks to the @Helpdesk team for their efforts today!
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@Team 1 @Team 2 where are you guys?
19:02
we’re at waterloo
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MediocreLogarithm257 07/12/2024 19:42
I desperately need to sleep now. See you tomorrow!
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Holy... That was an experience. Piccadilly Circus station closed whole I was outside it so I had to sprint through the crowds to Green Park and only just got to kings cross on time
19:56
Anyways, it was really fun today thanks everyone for playing! I'll definitely be joining the next one
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@Helpdesk can we get time stamps for when team 1 and 2 submitted evidence for vauxhall
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MediocreLogarithm257 07/12/2024 20:02
Team 1 never submitted evidence of challenge completion (edited)
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Team 2 arrived first at 18:07 and submitted a video at 18:13 Team 1 arrived second at 18:12 and posted it to the wrong channel
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wait does that mean team 2 got the station?!
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The challenge was "find a rude street name" and they submitted "Goding Street"
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sorry i meant pimlico
20:04
i got the wrong station
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oh yeah, Team 1 got Pimlico
20:04
Team 2 never went to Pimlico (edited)
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ratt
The challenge was "find a rude street name" and they submitted "Goding Street"
phh and i assume that wasn’t rude enough
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it was not
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that makes sense thanks
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and we got 13 votes to 0 from the main Jet Lag server to back that up
20:06
we did a public poll
20:06
just in case
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ratt
The challenge was "find a rude street name" and they submitted "Goding Street"
That challenge literally was not doable
20:10
We tried our best
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No, I don't think it was doable
20:11
I'm not dissing your attempt
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I’d be interested in your method of picking challenges then. I remember doing the SIS one last time (edited)
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oh yeah i just thought they both did attempted and got approved for whatever reason
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We had a spreadsheet with a randomisation function that let us roll 50/50 between picking one of the fixed challenges on the list, and one of the hidden challenges. If the 50/50 came up for one of the hidden challenges, we rolled for all of them that had not been completed to pick one (edited)
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the watermelon is safely on it’s way home guys
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Meerko
the watermelon is safely on it’s way home guys
Awwww
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The fact that the rude street name was chosen was luck of the draw
20:24
the fact that Team 1 rolled some awful challenges at the start and ended up behind was also luck of the draw
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Makes it realistic for sure
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There was an element of randomness in this one that wasn't in the first B4Z1
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ellasophia2004 07/12/2024 20:29
Thanks for a great game today guys! I’m safely tucked in bed.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 20:30
That was quick.
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i have just gotten home! not quite in bed but fun game guys
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verumIgnis 07/12/2024 20:30
I'm still waiting to my train to leave πŸ’€
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That was quick.
ellasophia2004 07/12/2024 20:45
gotta love living in London
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Btw guys you should call me Joe, not Earth. I wanted to change my nickname earlier but I didn't want to confuse anyone in the middle of the game :p
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Thanks all for the game, and for Helpdesk for running it! I was worried about the weather but besides delaying me getting there (and, it seems, back), it wasn't as bad as I'd feared.
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Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 20:49
I'm really surprised about how smooth the networks were today considering the weather... I expected a lot more chaos and disruptions
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Fahmi Sack
I'm really surprised about how smooth the networks were today considering the weather... I expected a lot more chaos and disruptions
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 20:52
Yeah sure
20:52
Oxford trains are still being cancelled
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verumIgnis
Yeah sure
Fahmi Sack 07/12/2024 20:53
Yeah I have no clue how that is not weather related...
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Fahmi Sack
Yeah I have no clue how that is not weather related...
verumIgnis 07/12/2024 20:53
All but 1 of the cancellations this morning were weather
20:53
My planned train was a staff issue (edited)
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It seems they gave up running trains at some point between King's Lynn and London due to the 40mph limit on the Fen Line and stopped all the London services at Cambridge with a separate shuttle service to King's Lynn from there
20:55
My originally planned train was also apparently a staff issue
20:55
But the subsequent one was delayed by weather
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/12/2024 21:33
Annndd, it is already stormy and windy at my place rn
21:34
the watermelon you guys gave birth to has been murdered
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Finally home, train was delayed by πŸ’― minutes πŸ˜”
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Ouch... I ended up with about a 40 minute delay getting back
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Yeah my train back which is usually 20 minutes took 1hr 30mins with no seats available
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I honestly wonder whether Team 2 could've cinched this if they had decided to go east after Queensway, before Team 3 could've made it.
18:38
The dead end that was created in the west by Team 1 and 2 meeting slowed both of them down
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Fahmi Sack 09/12/2024 18:54
Team 1 could have even came solid second by doing Westminster then battle Team 2 or 3 for a station
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I expected to be challenged for St James' Park since we left it vulnerable
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ratt
The dead end that was created in the west by Team 1 and 2 meeting slowed both of them down
We did foresee that they were approaching each other and should probably avoid that area
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Yeah, we on team 1 were also considering going north from Earl's Court instead of following the Piccadilly line back towards the centre. If we did that we would probably have done better, but that's hindsight
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I was wondering why Team 2 made it to one Paddington, but didn't get the other stations in the area until later
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We did foresee that they were approaching each other and should probably avoid that area
Fahmi Sack 09/12/2024 18:59
You guys got a really really lucky start. The challenges right at the beginning were very easy.. And the number of instant claims you got too..
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Fahmi Sack
You guys got a really really lucky start. The challenges right at the beginning were very easy.. And the number of instant claims you got too..
Yeah, we were quite lucky with our early challenges, whenever the location one would have been slow we usually got a quick TaskMetro one. A couple later on were harder, like the face cookie that took ages, and the one we had to veto due to not wanting to go to Stansted
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(or anywhere really, best case scenario was taking 30 minutes which seemed like too long)
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Yeah, we were quite lucky with our early challenges, whenever the location one would have been slow we usually got a quick TaskMetro one. A couple later on were harder, like the face cookie that took ages, and the one we had to veto due to not wanting to go to Stansted
Fahmi Sack 09/12/2024 19:02
If you were a minute earlier you'd be going to Paddington.
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Oh, surprisingly few places near us sold scratchcards
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Fahmi Sack 09/12/2024 19:03
If you were a minute later you'd be going towards Shenfield
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Fahmi Sack
If you were a minute earlier you'd be going to Paddington.
Would have been decent earlier in the game!
19:05
Oh yes, we were also lucky that when we got claim immediately but you can't use your phone, our next challenge had directions
19:06
And there was a map just over the road
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 09/12/2024 19:14
I'm now thinking that considering a vast amount of Taskmetro challenges were used, i don't think it's worth doing a Taskmetro event on its own?
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Fahmi Sack 09/12/2024 20:45
Also, the amount of challenges that were acceptable, either outright or with minor modifications, is a considerably small subset of the full deck. It serves better as an inspiration to create our own tasks than to outright use them (edited)
20:46
It's good that the production cost of the taskmetro was't done professionally, as this would have been a negative return on investment.
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