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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 08/05/2025 22:26
@deleted-role Welcome
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and @Fahmi Sack
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Unfortunately i've struggled to move this category up
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Fahmi Sack 08/05/2025 22:27
I'll do it
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 08/05/2025 22:34
@deleted-role Testing
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Welcome to the London H&S Channel
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DeletedUser 08/05/2025 22:35
Hi
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Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ 08/05/2025 22:35
Hi
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DeletedUser 08/05/2025 22:35
East London?
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Is it going to be in a particular borough or
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Is east london just a placeholder for now
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 08/05/2025 22:36
For now yes
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But it's one of the proposals being worked on rn
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Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ 08/05/2025 22:50
Looking forward to it, I hope it won’t be too small tho
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East London?
Fahmi Sack 08/05/2025 22:58
On Monday evening I can probably make a decision on whether I can take lead on a game or not. If I take lead, we'll be doing a H&S on a Z123 or DLR based map
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Fahmi Sack
On Monday evening I can probably make a decision on whether I can take lead on a game or not. If I take lead, we'll be doing a H&S on a Z123 or DLR based map
DeletedUser 08/05/2025 23:10
H&S Z1-3 probably requires more than 1 day (edited)
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I think just Z1 H&S offers enough creativity IMO though it may suffer from being too 'recognisable' to some people
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 08/05/2025 23:14
@Realigning Adding you here as well, as either a player or Helpdesk.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
@Realigning Adding you here as well, as either a player or Helpdesk.
Realigning 08/05/2025 23:33
Thanks for the thought but tbh i'm not sure i can be involved on the day in both the game on the 31st and the game on the 7th... and given the choice, I'd definitely pick the 7th given i"ve been so much more involved in that one
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H&S Z1-3 probably requires more than 1 day (edited)
Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ 08/05/2025 23:38
Z1-2?
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Realigning
Thanks for the thought but tbh i'm not sure i can be involved on the day in both the game on the 31st and the game on the 7th... and given the choice, I'd definitely pick the 7th given i"ve been so much more involved in that one
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 09/05/2025 00:21
Let's just say you could back up in case me or Fahmi drop out of helpdesk
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Besides I think I was gonna have Fahmi play considering he never played H&S before
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But then without him, I could end up being the only one in helpdesk
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Let's just say you could back up in case me or Fahmi drop out of helpdesk
Realigning 09/05/2025 09:14
Ok, fair enough
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Fahmi Sack 09/05/2025 19:04
@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb I'm able to take lead if you need
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Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§
Z1-2?
Fahmi Sack 09/05/2025 19:06
The problem is the multiple tube closures.
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Fahmi Sack
@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb I'm able to take lead if you need
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 09/05/2025 19:06
Ok cool
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I guess do what you can for now if possible (edited)
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Fahmi Sack 09/05/2025 20:46
Here's my initial proposal: Z1 Hide and Seek. Small game format, 30 minute hiding times. Hiding to start from previous found location. I have one concern, which is the hiding zones. Below is a map with radii 200 and 400m, please vote which hiding radius you would prefer: 2️⃣ 200m 4️⃣ 400m https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1wSKh9jH9C5mlmanxLNWpOU20kOnwnX8&usp=sharing Edit - 400m wins. (edited)
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Fahmi Sack
Here's my initial proposal: Z1 Hide and Seek. Small game format, 30 minute hiding times. Hiding to start from previous found location. I have one concern, which is the hiding zones. Below is a map with radii 200 and 400m, please vote which hiding radius you would prefer: 2️⃣ 200m 4️⃣ 400m https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1wSKh9jH9C5mlmanxLNWpOU20kOnwnX8&usp=sharing Edit - 400m wins. (edited)
Realigning 09/05/2025 21:37
What's going on in Chelsea is that the site of the future Crossrail 2 station?
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Fahmi Sack 09/05/2025 21:39
Idk... did I miss something that's not in Z1?
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Realigning 09/05/2025 21:41
Your station marker in Chelsea is ... an aspirational station. As in it might be a station in 20 years time. Currently it's an office building
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Fahmi Sack 09/05/2025 21:43
Whoops.. no clue how that made it into my CSV... removed, thanks!
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Realigning 09/05/2025 21:44
"Send a picture of the station platform" gets out the ground penetrating radar
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Fahmi Sack 09/05/2025 22:12
Another vote: Because of Tube closures, we can either have a dynamic map, or a static one.. 1️⃣ - Dynamic: All available rail journeys permitted. Busses only permitted to stations that do not have any rail services at the time. 2️⃣ - Static: The pre-11 tube map is in effect throughout the entire game, only lines and stations open before 11am may be used. All busses may be used without restriction. Edit: Dynamic Map wins. (edited)
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Quite a lot of lines are closed pre-11am, some closed 11-4, then most open after 4
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how long are we anticipating the game day being?
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Fahmi Sack 09/05/2025 23:01
Currently I'm looking at something between 8.30am to 8.30pm. If you need to arrive late or leave early, I'll make sure you're put into a team that doesn't mind seeking second or later. after 8.30pm it'll only extend if a game is in the endgame until the hiders are found.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 09/05/2025 23:31
Erm, didn't we start at 9am when we did Edinburgh?
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Fahmi Sack 09/05/2025 23:37
We did and the day went really tight, adding 30 minutes on each end would have done perfectly - remember we also started late.
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This game is small rather than medium also
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Fahmi Sack 09/05/2025 23:39
Hmm.. true, any suggestions?
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I think in a 12-hour game with a 30-minute hiding time we're probably looking at a median total round time somewhere around 3 hours, maybe a little longer, so it seems like there's a decent chance of 3 rounds and finishing a little earlier (assuming 3 teams). But there's a lot of variation so plenty of time is helpful, of course
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Although if I'm able to come it means getting up, like, 5:30am, so I'm not going to argue with later start times :P
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Fahmi Sack 10/05/2025 00:18
I'll be taking an overnight coach anyways
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 10/05/2025 12:53
@Russell_Ruffino and I have agreed that he'll be attending this as well.
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Fahmi Sack 10/05/2025 22:27
@CoolDog Welcome to the London chats!
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 10/05/2025 22:40
Isn't cooldog supposedly assigned for 7th June or did he changed his mind on dates?
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I can't do 7th or june sadly
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 11/05/2025 09:35
Sup
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 11/05/2025 10:01
This event will probably break the record for most attendees. This is surely gonna be Jet Lag because tube closures
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 11/05/2025 10:25
Gonna be a lot of people for the hide and seek format right? Are you doing teams of 2/3?
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY
Gonna be a lot of people for the hide and seek format right? Are you doing teams of 2/3?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 11/05/2025 10:48
I believe mostly 2, though 3 is possible
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H&S scales more by adding multiple games rather than big teams
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY
Gonna be a lot of people for the hide and seek format right? Are you doing teams of 2/3?
Fahmi Sack 11/05/2025 19:04
We will split the attendance into multiple parallel games. Each game will have a maximum of 3 teams of pairs (6 players).
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I will do team assignments on Friday 30th May.
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Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ 11/05/2025 22:13
So 2 seeker teams and one hiding?
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How does that work?
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Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§
So 2 seeker teams and one hiding?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 11/05/2025 22:28
2 seeker teams consisting of 2 players each worked quite well in Edinburgh
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The seekers are together, right? Same as how the two non hiders are together on the show. The parallel games don't interact at all
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Fahmi Sack 11/05/2025 22:36
Yes.
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Exactly how our Edinburgh game worked out too
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However... If we have more than 2 simultaneous games, we will definitely need 2 helpdesk at all times.
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DeletedUser 13/05/2025 15:52
Wait so if I'm reading this correctly
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Theres about 16 or more people for this event?
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That's quite high, how will the game distribution work?
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Theres about 16 or more people for this event?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 13/05/2025 15:53
14 atm I think.
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I think me and Realigning will be helpdesking
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That's quite high, how will the game distribution work?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 13/05/2025 15:54
We have an app in place as backup
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For a potential third game
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I think we have 2 card packs set to use. I believe mine and @Alec 's will be used
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That's quite high, how will the game distribution work?
Fahmi Sack 13/05/2025 16:23
Like we did in Edinburgh, multiple games of up to 6 people. We'll probs need quite a few decks ## If you have a deck and are willing to use it on the 31st DM/ping me pretty please (edited)
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I do have one in London, just Ali has it currently
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 13/05/2025 17:45
Oh wait, I almost forgot about Fahmi's deck, since it's still in London I think it's possible Fahmi would collect it before the 31st
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Oh wait, I almost forgot about Fahmi's deck, since it's still in London I think it's possible Fahmi would collect it before the 31st
Fahmi Sack 13/05/2025 18:17
Mine's currently in the RM system to Middlesbrough - I'll be bringing it to Dublin first, and ofc I'll have it for 31st too
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I do have one in London, just Ali has it currently
Fahmi Sack 13/05/2025 18:17
Will it (still) be in london on the 31st??
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Fahmi Sack 14/05/2025 22:46
@deleted-role Due to the large number of people, a collective briefing would likely be impractical. I have therefore created the briefing document below. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LQWLDfLYvOnDooukH43eN50KupoVYYJYbLVReInWWk0/edit?usp=sharing The document will go through some key features and important steps and information you may need to follow both before the game and during the game. It will be updated as and when needed. As always, any questions just ask.
JLUK: London Hide and Seek May 31 Helpdesk Briefing Thank you for choosing to run the helpdesk for this game! Helpdesk is a vital connection between the hiders and seekers, and acts as an independent, discreet method of communication and assistance. Please read through this document carefully as...
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Fahmi Sack pinned a message to this channel. 14/05/2025 22:46
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 15/05/2025 18:00
Here comes another player.
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So a third deck is largely needed then
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Fahmi Sack 15/05/2025 18:15
Sorted.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 16/05/2025 14:27
@Helpdesk Testing
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I think Sevenseas is dropping out and switching to Helpdesk instead
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Fahmi Sack 18/05/2025 11:54
@deleted-role I intend to lock in our game times by next weekend. Currently, it's proposed to be 8:30-20:30, meeting at KGX/STP, meaning everyone should look to arrive around 8am to allow for set ups and final touches. @Helpdesk will similarly need to prepare for an 8am start. If you're ok with this, please react πŸ‘. If you have any suggestions drop them down.
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I would also suggest posting somewhere the full hide and seek rules ahead of time. I haven't been able to find the official ones posted anywhere online in full, and I imagine that it might be a better use of time not to be reading over them in the half hour before game time
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Fahmi Sack 18/05/2025 11:57
https://gist.github.com/Earthcomputer/73e835f57dd67a18afe30075bfbe7d8c Credit to Joe for this. Will update into the briefing document later today.
Jet Lag Hide and Seek Rule Book. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.
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Each game will also have 2 printed versions of the official rulebook, one for hiders and one for seekers. It won't however include the amendments which are linked in the briefing document
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 18/05/2025 12:02
ive already been looking at hiding places on street view lol
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Are we doing Z1?
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dabus21
Are we doing Z1?
Fahmi Sack 18/05/2025 13:18
Yes.
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Dr_Trash_Panda 18/05/2025 21:44
Is it only zone 1 we're covering? Just trying to figure out realistically how likely I'll be able to catch a train back out of London at the end of the game
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Dr_Trash_Panda
Is it only zone 1 we're covering? Just trying to figure out realistically how likely I'll be able to catch a train back out of London at the end of the game
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 18/05/2025 21:49
Z1 shouldn't take more than around 30 mins to get to where you need to be.
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At most.
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But yeah, I think Fahmi stated it's only Z1.
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 18/05/2025 21:51
What is the hide time for the game?
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Dr_Trash_Panda
Is it only zone 1 we're covering? Just trying to figure out realistically how likely I'll be able to catch a train back out of London at the end of the game
Fahmi Sack 18/05/2025 22:39
Yes, all hiding zones are the Z1 stations. There's a link to a map of all zones in the briefing document.
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY
What is the hide time for the game?
Fahmi Sack 18/05/2025 22:40
Small game, so 30 minutes.
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Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ 19/05/2025 12:54
Something like this then
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Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§
Something like this then
Fahmi Sack 19/05/2025 13:10
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Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ 19/05/2025 13:21
That’s helpful, cheers
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What’s KGX or STP?
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Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§
What’s KGX or STP?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 19/05/2025 13:22
Kings cross and St Pancras
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Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ 19/05/2025 13:25
There’s so many choices πŸ˜…
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Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§
That’s helpful, cheers
Fahmi Sack 19/05/2025 13:27
Np. Should be linked in the briefing document too..
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Fahmi Sack
https://gist.github.com/Earthcomputer/73e835f57dd67a18afe30075bfbe7d8c Credit to Joe for this. Will update into the briefing document later today.
Fahmi Sack 20/05/2025 06:12
Briefing document edited to include a soft copy of the standard rule book.
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@deleted-role I intend to lock in our game times by next weekend. Currently, it's proposed to be 8:30-20:30, meeting at KGX/STP, meaning everyone should look to arrive around 8am to allow for set ups and final touches. @Helpdesk will similarly need to prepare for an 8am start. If you're ok with this, please react πŸ‘. If you have any suggestions drop them down.
Fahmi Sack 20/05/2025 06:24
@verumIgnis @Jules 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 @Nakari @DeletedUser Just a reminder as you've not yet reacted to confirm whether you can make these timings. If I don't hear from you by Sunday morning I will assume you're all ok with them.
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verumIgnis 20/05/2025 08:11
Done
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@verumIgnis @Jules 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 @Nakari @DeletedUser Just a reminder as you've not yet reacted to confirm whether you can make these timings. If I don't hear from you by Sunday morning I will assume you're all ok with them.
DeletedUser 20/05/2025 09:02
I intend on help desking this and attending Newcastle instead (edited)
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 20/05/2025 09:04
I think Seven stated before that he's dropping out, I guess Fahmi wasn't aware
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I intend on help desking this and attending Newcastle instead (edited)
Fahmi Sack 20/05/2025 11:42
That's fine, you've got the Helpdesk role for this. Helpdesk still need to prepare for a 8-8.30am start
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Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ 20/05/2025 12:50
Is there room for my friend?
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Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§
Is there room for my friend?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 20/05/2025 13:13
According to @Fahmi Sack there's always space I think
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Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§
Is there room for my friend?
Fahmi Sack 20/05/2025 13:29
Yep! Just need a few details if you can DM me
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 20/05/2025 15:12
Just a reminder, I think we currently have at least 3 card decks available for next week
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But to help with this, it's likely we'll bring out Mit's virtual deck
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Fahmi Sack 20/05/2025 15:19
5 decks actually. Mine, Mits, yours, one of Fatheeds which I'm nabbing from NCL and Alec.
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Fahmi Sack
5 decks actually. Mine, Mits, yours, one of Fatheeds which I'm nabbing from NCL and Alec.
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 20/05/2025 15:21
How do you even get Mits? And aren't you not far from Newcastle?
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How do you even get Mits? And aren't you not far from Newcastle?
Fahmi Sack 20/05/2025 15:22
Mits is on my hands rn, got it delivered. Ncl is only an hour from me, plus I return to ncl from Dublin on Saturday
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@verumIgnis @Jules 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 @Nakari @DeletedUser Just a reminder as you've not yet reacted to confirm whether you can make these timings. If I don't hear from you by Sunday morning I will assume you're all ok with them.
I can confirm!
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dabus21
Omg pls pin this it’s so helpful
Fahmi Sack 20/05/2025 22:22
It's in the briefing document (pinned), in the Google Maps tab
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I've written an entire section on how to use the map πŸ™‚
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Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ 21/05/2025 00:17
Have we decided yet if there’s a reset or if we start from last hiders location
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Fahmi Sack 21/05/2025 00:25
Last hiders location. Z1 is well connected enough that this makes it possible
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Thanks
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 24/05/2025 20:20
Provisional teams list: I just realised, some of you are t supposed to be playing H&S but rather the battle for boroughs on 7th June
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@verumIgnis @AVUNCULAR ENERGY I think you should be on the 7th June game, just to let you know I'll be removing the H&S Role and soon you'll get the new role for 7th June (edited)
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 24/05/2025 20:22
I said I could play both πŸ˜›
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but if it makes the numbers easier, sure
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 24/05/2025 20:23
Oh ok, didn't know πŸ™‚
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I'm just gonna sort out provisional teams
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 24/05/2025 20:23
yeah both is fine but if you need to reduce numbers for either I cant step out of one
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
I'm just gonna sort out provisional teams
Fahmi Sack 24/05/2025 20:24
???
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@verumIgnis @AVUNCULAR ENERGY I think you should be on the 7th June game, just to let you know I'll be removing the H&S Role and soon you'll get the new role for 7th June (edited)
verumIgnis 24/05/2025 20:26
I'm down for both
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Fahmi Sack
???
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 24/05/2025 20:26
Sorting out the pairs provisionally, especially those that want to pair with somebody. I know the games themselves will be dealt with later
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Sorting out the pairs provisionally, especially those that want to pair with somebody. I know the games themselves will be dealt with later
Fahmi Sack 24/05/2025 20:26
Please don't. Let me do this.
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verumIgnis 24/05/2025 20:27
Is there a reason I can't attend both games?
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verumIgnis
Is there a reason I can't attend both games?
Fahmi Sack 24/05/2025 20:27
No there isn't. You can attend both imo.
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verumIgnis
Is there a reason I can't attend both games?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 24/05/2025 20:27
We just didn't know you stated you could do both (edited)
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verumIgnis 24/05/2025 20:27
Sure πŸ™‚
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Fahmi Sack
No there isn't. You can attend both imo.
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 24/05/2025 20:28
Ok, I just thought you have lots of work to do with rules change when you get back, plus you're still not on the plane now??
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Ok, I just thought you have lots of work to do with rules change when you get back, plus you're still not on the plane now??
Fahmi Sack 24/05/2025 20:29
Let me sort out the H&S for central London.
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I currently have things under control
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And @Realigning has things under control for 7th.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
We just didn't know you stated you could do both (edited)
Realigning 24/05/2025 20:30
I am working on the assumption that verum Ignis is coming to the 7th event. Can't speak for H&S. I will give everyone relevant permissions soon
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 24/05/2025 20:30
I think I agreed to let others take charge so I can focus on Barcelona. I think I should've known this now.
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verumIgnis 24/05/2025 21:07
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Teams ?
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dabus21
Teams ?
Fahmi Sack 24/05/2025 22:02
Yes. You may be put in Teams for London H&S
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Fahmi Sack 25/05/2025 18:24
Draft teams: Game 1: Naktine + Nakari Fahmi + JulesWitold Game 2: AVUNCULAR + Alec Dobex + CoolDog Game 3: Mithent + Dabus + Verum Conductor + Panda Please let me know ASAP if you have any alternative suggestions/requests. (edited)
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Fahmi Sack 25/05/2025 19:51
@deleted-role Apologies for another ping! I'd like to ask what you think about allowing 'Radar Dodging' for London. Radar Dodging is when you intentionally move out of a radar question that only partially covers your zone within the 5 minutes allocated to answer the question - all while remaining within your hiding zone. This means that when the question comes in, it would be a hit, but because you move to a part of a hiding zone that would be a miss within the 5 minutes, you reply 'Missed'. Whether you immediately move back into the radar zone or not, after enough of these radars, if unsuspecting seekers don't take into account the possibility of radar dodging, they may end up believing the hiders' hiding zone to be excluded This tactic caused quite some controversy in the recent Dublin game, opinions of which are given by other members of the server in #general. One way to tackle this tactic is to have radar (or measurement) questions be applied at the time the questions are asked, as opposed to applying the radar anytime within the 5 minutes given to reply. Another way to avoid this is to have the measurement questions applied to the station rather than the hiders before the endgame, but to the hiders during the endgame. What do you think? πŸ‡¦ - Allow it πŸ‡§ - Ban it, by applying the question when asked πŸ‡¨ - Ban it, by applying radars to stations before the endgame πŸ‡© - Both B and C
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Is it stupid to say you cant rule out a hiding zone if only some of it is covered
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I think it should be allowed, but if you ban it, it makes sense to apply the radar to the centre of a zone like how some questions are worded e.g.tallest structure
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verumIgnis 25/05/2025 19:53
If everyone is aware it is a thing, i think its fine
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i think it should be allowed, because that is how the game has been played on the show. didn't this exact thing come up during one of ben's runs in japan?
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Realigning 25/05/2025 19:57
I think there's nothing technically wrong with it, but creating an incentive for hiding teams to run for 5 minutes at various intervals seems like it does not enrich the gameplay meaningfully
19:57
It feels like an exploit of the rule about time to answer a question, which was clearly intended to address a different concern
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Fahmi Sack 25/05/2025 19:58
There's also the inverse. Moving into the radar, to reply 'Hit', then back out.
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Realigning 25/05/2025 20:00
The reason i voted "B" rather than "C" is to still allow for some scope to answer the question differently than the seekers might expect, i see it as a bit of a compromise solution
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I'm not playing so I won't vote, but B still allows for "accidental" radar dodging, if you will, which the seekers would still need to be aware of
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Joe
I'm not playing so I won't vote, but B still allows for "accidental" radar dodging, if you will, which the seekers would still need to be aware of
Fahmi Sack 25/05/2025 20:03
E.g. Getting the question in the bus, still being in the bus and radar after 5 minutes, but you wanted to get off a stop outside the radar zone anyways.
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It seems like a rare condition anyway?
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Fahmi Sack 25/05/2025 20:06
And in the rare condition it did happen in Dublin, it caused pretty strong disagreements.
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Joe
I'm not playing so I won't vote, but B still allows for "accidental" radar dodging, if you will, which the seekers would still need to be aware of
Since you can move around your zone freely, if the radar doesn't completely include or exclude the zone, IMO there is no meaningful difference to the seekers between intentional "dodging" and the hiders just moving around e.g. looking for the best hiding spot
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 25/05/2025 23:19
Didn't they mention on a layover that you could technically move around if you wanted to as long as you remained in your area?
23:19
pretty sure I heard ben or adam say that for the japan season
23:21
I think it should be ok as long as the rule is made explicit to everyone involved on the morning
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Yeah, I don't think you have any movement restrictions within your zone under the rules until endgame (at which point you instantly can't move at all)
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Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ 26/05/2025 07:20
I think as long as the radar hits within your zone’s radius, no matter where you are it should hit
07:21
At least until it becomes a small enough radar
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 27/05/2025 10:23
@Realigning Russell is dropping out in case he hasn't dmed you
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@Realigning Russell is dropping out in case he hasn't dmed you
Realigning 27/05/2025 10:24
Wait this is in the H&S chat. Why would he DM me?
10:25
Or are you talking about B4B
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 27/05/2025 10:25
Yep it's for H&S
10:25
I'm certain
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Realigning 27/05/2025 11:00
There's no need to dm me regarding H&S, my only responsibility is Helpdesk for this event
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 27/05/2025 11:01
Whoops, I should've pinged @Fahmi Sack then, not you.
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Fahmi Sack 27/05/2025 13:45
@Russell_Ruffino please DM me
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Fahmi Sack
Draft teams: Game 1: Naktine + Nakari Fahmi + JulesWitold Game 2: AVUNCULAR + Alec Dobex + CoolDog Game 3: Mithent + Dabus + Verum Conductor + Panda Please let me know ASAP if you have any alternative suggestions/requests. (edited)
Fahmi Sack 27/05/2025 14:10
Following the cancellation of a player, there has been a slight change to the team assignments. If there aren't any objections or suggestions, these teams will be final on Friday afternoon.
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Fahmi Sack
Draft teams: Game 1: Naktine + Nakari Fahmi + JulesWitold Game 2: AVUNCULAR + Alec Dobex + CoolDog Game 3: Mithent + Dabus + Verum Conductor + Panda Please let me know ASAP if you have any alternative suggestions/requests. (edited)
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 27/05/2025 14:12
Thought I'd lurk in and let you know, Mit and Dabus were on the same team before, twice.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 27/05/2025 17:22
Btw @Jules 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 I almost forgot, didn't you said your friend might be interested in joining?
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Jules πŸ‡«πŸ‡· πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ 27/05/2025 17:31
Yeah, I already notified Fahmi that they won’t be coming.
17:31
They were suddenly not so interested when they learned it starts at 8 am and lasts about 12 hours πŸ˜†
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Fahmi Sack 27/05/2025 23:05
@Max (v3rtico) welcome to the helpdesk team!
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Max (v3rtico) 27/05/2025 23:20
Another Help desk in Z1 πŸ₯³ When I visit London in September I will know the tube map off by heart
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Fahmi Sack 27/05/2025 23:22
I don't think even many Londoners can do that....
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verumIgnis 28/05/2025 07:59
Knowing the tube map isn't much of a flex, you gotta learn the entire rail and tube map
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8am at kings x tomorrow yah
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Fahmi Sack 30/05/2025 09:08
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