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Fahmi Sack 22/05/2025 16:52
@Realigning
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Realigning 25/05/2025 08:03
Hey, just wanted to get the currently signed up players in here because we are now right on the verge of not having enough people to run this event
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@AVUNCULAR ENERGY @Joe @verumIgnis @FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb bring a friend if you can...
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@Sushi @Gould please confirm if you are still available on this date (7th Jun) (edited)
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Gould 25/05/2025 08:05
Hi! Yes still keen
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08:06
I may have a friend who is interested as well - shall I message him now?
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Realigning 25/05/2025 08:07
Yes please! I appreciate there aren't many details yet, you should expect some by the end of the bank holiday weekend, but basically it's a game about claiming (and completing various challenges in) the different London boroughs
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Gould
I may have a friend who is interested as well - shall I message him now?
Realigning 25/05/2025 08:07
So since you've confirmed that puts us at 5 currently, if we reach 6 we can say we are definitely going ahead (edited)
08:08
I'll ask a friend too
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@AVUNCULAR ENERGY @Joe @verumIgnis @FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb bring a friend if you can...
verumIgnis 25/05/2025 08:46
I'll see if anyone I know wants to join
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 25/05/2025 08:48
I'd put out another tagging announcement in since we are nearly 400 in the server
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Fahmi Sack 25/05/2025 09:04
I'll do the announcement, that way I can post updates about my games too. Just gimme a moment
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@Sushi @Gould please confirm if you are still available on this date (7th Jun) (edited)
Sushi 25/05/2025 09:06
I unfortunately won't be able to come for this one 😔
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 25/05/2025 15:13
Don’t have any friends in London that would play sorry
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Realigning 26/05/2025 09:29
@Fahmi Sack @FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb i managed to get a friend interested and he says he can come. Just waiting to add him until i see if someone else can also come. But either way, good news - we now have the number of people required for the event to go ahead (6)
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 26/05/2025 09:46
Cool
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Joe 27/05/2025 19:31
where actually is the signup form for this event?
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I've got a friend who's interested but can't find the signup form
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 27/05/2025 19:32
It's the same as the H&S one.
19:33
I'd say go through with that and state the date and stuff
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Joe 27/05/2025 19:33
well that might be why we're lacking on signups 😂
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the title of the form just says "JLUK hide and seek london"
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I know you've edited it but the embed hasn't changed: https://discord.com/channels/1059625399979606166/1172882357733298176/1358690034865147984
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also the questions are still hide and seek specific
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Joe
well that might be why we're lacking on signups 😂
Realigning 27/05/2025 19:40
We're fine for numbers now, by the way. Especially with your friend being interested
19:41
We may even get a 3rd team
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Joe 27/05/2025 19:45
alright he's confirmed he wants to play. Could @shmee be added?
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19:45
same guy as played bfz1 lite
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Fahmi Sack 27/05/2025 22:48
@Realigning is there a helpdesk signup for this game?
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Realigning 27/05/2025 22:51
no but we have enough
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 01/06/2025 11:32
Would 5 metres be ok?
11:32
I remember doing this back in Manchester last year
11:33
Or 10?
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MediocreLogarithm257 01/06/2025 11:46
It was 5 for the Manchester game last year
11:47
5 isn't too difficult. Not sure if 10 is doable though
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 01/06/2025 11:48
I think it was stated 10 metres in BFZ1 Lite
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@Fahmi Sack i can remember him doing this challenge then.
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Realigning 01/06/2025 12:28
Other chat, please?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 01/06/2025 18:51
Just realised that Fahmi is helpdesking despite being busy?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Just realised that Fahmi is helpdesking despite being busy?
Fahmi Sack 01/06/2025 19:07
Busy??
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 01/06/2025 19:08
Thought you're doing a game
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Fahmi Sack 01/06/2025 19:09
The weekend after.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 01/06/2025 19:11
Oh
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ratt 01/06/2025 21:29
Is 9AM still the start time?
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ratt
Is 9AM still the start time?
Realigning 01/06/2025 22:16
Yeah, at least, assuming that having the option of starting at 9:30 is still no easier for you.
22:16
Than starting at 9.
22:17
If 9:30 is no easier for you than 9, we may as well start at 9. I don't want to start later than 9:30.
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If anyone else coming from outside of London has some constraints around bus or train times, please let me know.
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ratt 02/06/2025 13:41
I could potentially make it for either
13:41
I haven't booked anything yet
13:42
I could take a later bus+train and get into Victoria for 9:02 with enough time to transfer onto a tube train
13:43
I'd rather not delay the game for everyone though
13:43
especially since its a gamemode with a schedule
13:44
If anyone else would rather do the later time that's fine
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ratt
I'd rather not delay the game for everyone though
Realigning 02/06/2025 13:48
I want people to arrive at 9 but I don't think it's a question of delaying the game for everyone, the first 20 minutes at minimum is always explaining things, setting up trackers, waiting for multiple people to arrive. Etc. Since you are already more familiar with the game than most players, i don't mind it being more "turn up and go" for you.
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Teams can also strategise during those first few minutes of waiting
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So your choice i think (edited)
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ratt 02/06/2025 13:49
I thought it would be a "start at 9, arrive at 8:30" kind of situation?
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Realigning 02/06/2025 13:50
Nope. It's built into the schedule that we are very much expecting to not actually start at 9am
13:53
I think most people should aim to get to the meeting location at 9 but i'm fine on making an exception for you since you are more familiar with it - if you're happy to miss the prep time
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ratt 02/06/2025 13:53
Okay, that makes things significantly more doable then, I was leaving more leeway for the start than was needed. Glad I didn't book yet, I can probably take the cheap train
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13:54
Will there be strategy channels opened prior to the event?
13:54
Wait they're already open
13:54
nvm
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ratt
nvm
Realigning 02/06/2025 13:58
Your 2 teammates are my 2 good IRL friends. 1 of them is away ATM so might not be very active
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 03/06/2025 08:59
Are we still meeting at Bank?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Are we still meeting at Bank?
Realigning 03/06/2025 09:41
Yes but specifically the London Troops War Memorial by the station. Because Bank is enormous.
09:42
There's like a little outdoor seating area there
09:43
It's also mentioned in the game description doc now, I updated it
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 03/06/2025 13:31
@Sifa Poulton welcome
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Sifa Poulton 03/06/2025 13:37
Hi! 9am at Bank station?
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Sifa Poulton
Hi! 9am at Bank station?
Realigning 03/06/2025 13:43
Specifically the London Troops War Memorial, yes
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Sifa Poulton 03/06/2025 13:45
Amazing thanks
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Sifa Poulton
Amazing thanks
Realigning 03/06/2025 13:46
You should also now have access to team chat
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Fahmi Sack 03/06/2025 14:06
@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb just a reminder: could you mute the team chat you're not on please - they're about to start planning strategies
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 03/06/2025 14:07
Already done. All but team 3.
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Joe 03/06/2025 14:13
If 2 teams are on the same tube train and therefore enter a borough at the same time, who claims the borough?
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If 2 teams are on the same tube train and therefore enter a borough at the same time, who claims the borough?
Realigning 03/06/2025 14:16
It doesn't quite work like that - i recommend everyone to read the pinned rules document under announcements before Saturday 1. Claiming a borough is achieved by completing the relevant claiming challenge. 2. To either claim or lock a borough, you have to be a pedestrian outdoors in the borough - i.e. not riding public transport.
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Joe 03/06/2025 14:16
Ah ok
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Joe
If 2 teams are on the same tube train and therefore enter a borough at the same time, who claims the borough?
Fahmi Sack 03/06/2025 14:16
Both do. All teams can claim boroughs simultaneously, but only one team can lock it for themselves
14:17
Once locked, all claims are null. (edited)
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Joe 03/06/2025 14:17
So there are claiming challenges and locking challenges, I see
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-# well there goes my strategy
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 03/06/2025 14:41
@luc752
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Welcome
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Joe 03/06/2025 15:24
Are there time estimates for how long each type of challenge is intended to take?
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Joe
Are there time estimates for how long each type of challenge is intended to take?
Realigning 03/06/2025 16:00
Not really. However, you will be able to view all of the locking challenges just before the game starts, so you could make decisions on that basis. The claiming challenges are randomised and rather generic, they are not supposed to be challenging
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Joe 03/06/2025 16:00
10 minutes? 15?
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Are they basically just designed to get your ass off the train or is there more to them than that?
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Joe
Are they basically just designed to get your ass off the train or is there more to them than that?
Realigning 03/06/2025 16:03
Eh, i think that's a pretty subjective question. Other dev/helpdesk members can comment if they want
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ratt 03/06/2025 16:09
Regarding the start times, if we're starting well after 9:30 and 9:30 is to be an arrival time, do the rest of the times need to be moved back to compensate?
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Otherwise we might get 9 boroughs opening up right at the beginning, if we end up starting the game closer to 10
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Fahmi Sack 03/06/2025 16:14
Ideally everyone should be arriving in good time for a 9am start. In case that's delayed by any amount then it will be compensated - exactly how will depend on how long the delay is... That's decision we'll need to make at Helpdesk on the spot.
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Fahmi Sack
Ideally everyone should be arriving in good time for a 9am start. In case that's delayed by any amount then it will be compensated - exactly how will depend on how long the delay is... That's decision we'll need to make at Helpdesk on the spot.
ratt 03/06/2025 16:15
Realigning said the other day that 9/9:30AM was to be the arrival time and the start time was to be later
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Fahmi Sack 03/06/2025 16:16
Then I must have misunderstood something @Realigning
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ratt 03/06/2025 16:16
I can probably make a 9AM start time but they're different tickets so I need to be sure
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The rules doc specifies borough opening times which assumes a 9AM start time
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ratt
Regarding the start times, if we're starting well after 9:30 and 9:30 is to be an arrival time, do the rest of the times need to be moved back to compensate?
Realigning 03/06/2025 16:17
Only the first set of start times. These are flagged differently on the sheet
16:17
So the game does become slightly compressed but that's ok IMO
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Fahmi Sack 03/06/2025 16:18
Either way, a delayed start will be compensated. If it's a few minutes we'll shift the wheel times accordingly, if it's longer then we may need to move things around a little - highly dependent on the delay.
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Realigning 03/06/2025 16:18
So, for example, if we start at 9:27, the first set of boroughs would activate between 9:27 and 10:27
16:25
The high level message is still arrive at 9am at the starting location please
16:26
I just think it's fine for ratt specifically, given travel distance, to arrive a bit later and get there as we start
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ratt
Realigning said the other day that 9/9:30AM was to be the arrival time and the start time was to be later
Realigning 03/06/2025 16:29
Google maps tells me you could take the later train and arrive at the starting location at 9:23, which i think is acceptable if you're happy to miss the briefing
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Joe
Are they basically just designed to get your ass off the train or is there more to them than that?
sevenseas 03/06/2025 16:36
A little bit more involved than that, but most/all of them are fairly 'simple'; they aren't designed to be too difficult. I'd say anywhere on avg about 15-20 mins per challenge depending on which one. Some are a little more difficult than others. (edited)
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Edison 03/06/2025 16:59
What does it mean to "unlock a claimed borough"? @Realigning
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Edison
What does it mean to "unlock a claimed borough"? @Realigning
ratt 03/06/2025 17:01
You have to do one challenge to claim a borough, and then another (harder) challenge to lock it
17:02
once a borough is locked, no other team can gain points from it
17:03
a borough might be claimed but not locked ("unlocked") at the end of the game and that's relevant for scoring
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Edison 03/06/2025 17:04
Okay, right, so it's just boroughs that you've claimed that are not locked by someone
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ratt 03/06/2025 17:10
@Realigning One thing I think could be made clearer in the rules is how scoring works when a borough is claimed by multiple teams and then locked by one of them. For instance: Team 1 claims Westminster within the wheel Team 2 claims Westminster within the wheel Team 1 locks Westminster within the wheel I believe the intended interpretation is that Team 1 come away with 2 points from having Westminster locked and that Team 2 come away with 0. (edited)
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But it is possible to also interpret the scoring as being cumulative, so Team 1 have 4 points and Team 2 have 2
17:11
This should be entirely clear in the rules to avoid misinterpretations.
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@Realigning One thing I think could be made clearer in the rules is how scoring works when a borough is claimed by multiple teams and then locked by one of them. For instance: Team 1 claims Westminster within the wheel Team 2 claims Westminster within the wheel Team 1 locks Westminster within the wheel I believe the intended interpretation is that Team 1 come away with 2 points from having Westminster locked and that Team 2 come away with 0. (edited)
Realigning 03/06/2025 17:13
This interpretation is correct
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Realigning 03/06/2025 17:29
Just wanted to point out something not mentioned in the rules document - but that we will be setting up on the day - that currently the plan is to have trackers on each of the teams for the whole game, visible to all
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As in, visible to helpdesk and the other teams
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Jules 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 03/06/2025 17:31
Ooooh, fun
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Realigning
Just wanted to point out something not mentioned in the rules document - but that we will be setting up on the day - that currently the plan is to have trackers on each of the teams for the whole game, visible to all
Fahmi Sack 03/06/2025 18:22
How do you plan on doing that?
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Edison 03/06/2025 18:37
Is there an estimate on the amount of time locking challenges take?
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Fahmi Sack
How do you plan on doing that?
Realigning 03/06/2025 18:40
Same way we usually share locations centrally, except with others' email addresses in addition (edited)
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Fahmi Sack 03/06/2025 20:14
This might me useful https://www.reddit.com/r/LondonUnderground/s/m8r73UJYA9
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 03/06/2025 21:37
I assume the game time is 9-6, right?
21:37
Including 1 hour break 1-2?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
I assume the game time is 9-6, right?
Realigning 03/06/2025 21:43
9 is the time people arrive, not the start time
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
Including 1 hour break 1-2?
Realigning 03/06/2025 21:43
12:30-13:30
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 03/06/2025 21:50
So 9:30am-18:30pm game time?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb
So 9:30am-18:30pm game time?
Realigning 03/06/2025 21:51
the end time and the duration of the lunch break will depend on exactly when we start. this will be communicated on the day. we might start slightly earlier or later than 9:30.
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Fahmi Sack 03/06/2025 22:21
Heads up: I'm adding spectator perms. If I mess up anything please let me know ASAP
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Realigning 03/06/2025 22:44
Made some minor changes now to the rules document based on various clarifications and questions that came up today.
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Edison
Is there an estimate on the amount of time locking challenges take?
Realigning 03/06/2025 22:52
It varies so much that it's almost impossible to give any kind of generalisation. Also, some of them have a higher variation in expected time taken, and some have a lower variation. But the full list by borough will be available before game start. Typically they are associated with one or several locations within the borough.
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So, even the easier ones are still "harder" than the claiming challenges because of the location-based constraints
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Fahmi Sack 04/06/2025 14:20
I've discovered a new little tool which involves colouring a map. Does anyone here have any issues with seeing specific colours - just so we don't end up using the worst possible colours?
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Joe 04/06/2025 14:23
I'm not personally colour blind, but generally when choosing colours in a UI I cater to the most common form of colour blindness, where people struggle to tell the difference between reds and greens with similar levels of brightness. (edited)
14:26
RG-colour blind people should still be able to tell the difference between dark red and light green, and will usually be able to infer that the darker colour is the one called "red" (because light red is usually labelled "pink" in English)
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Fahmi Sack 04/06/2025 14:48
Is Red - Blue - Yellow colour friendly?
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Joe 04/06/2025 14:51
https://www.color-blindness.com/coblis-color-blindness-simulator/ (select Deuteranomaly for the most common form of colour blindness)
14:53
red-yellow is similar to red-green hue-wise, since yellow is a mix of red and green. But yellow is normally a lot brighter than red so there's that, I'd use the checker to be sure. Although we don't know if there is anyone here who is actually colour blind and if so what type
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Fahmi Sack
Is Red - Blue - Yellow colour friendly?
Realigning 04/06/2025 15:12
Something similar to the Discord role colours should work, right? Copper red/brown for team 1, mid green for team 2 and bright yellow for team 3
15:13
Because they are all different intensities
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ratt 05/06/2025 12:52
Saturday weather forecast
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Strong gusts and heavy rain
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Sifa Poulton 05/06/2025 12:53
British summer fun
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Waterproof trousers and a flask it is
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ratt 05/06/2025 13:24
Teams should be aware that a section of the Mildmay line (specifically the bit north of the City that is useful at the start of the game) and the majority of the DLR will be fully closed for the entire day.
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Realigning 05/06/2025 13:26
Also no trains between Blackheath and Charlton. Will mention during the briefing
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Jules 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 05/06/2025 13:55
The best way is to buy a travel card for the day right? Does anyone know where you can buy one?
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ratt 05/06/2025 13:56
I haven't bothered before because you can use contactless with your card, and it caps
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Sifa Poulton 05/06/2025 14:18
Contactless is usually the cheapest and as Ratt said, it caps
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https://tfl.gov.uk/fares/find-fares/tube-and-rail-fares/pay-as-you-go-caps
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Make as many pay as you go journeys are you like using contactless or an Oyster card and we'll cap your fare
14:19
We could be travelling as far as zone 6
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Jules 🇫🇷 🇬🇧
The best way is to buy a travel card for the day right? Does anyone know where you can buy one?
Fahmi Sack 05/06/2025 15:21
It would be if you're depending on a cheaper travel cap. For example, if you're only usually travelling Z1-4 throughout the capping week (£64.20), the extension of travelling for a day to Z6 means you end up paying £17.40, which is more than a single day travelcard for Z1-6. You'd have to check and compare the zones you normally travel on contactless with the travelcard prices. For reference, Saturdays are off-peak all day.
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Covers Travelcards and Cap fares for Tube, DLR, London Overground, Elizabeth line and most National Rail services.
15:23
Travelcards can be bought pretty much at any station or ticket machine...
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ratt 05/06/2025 16:39
I probably will pick up a travelcard this time though since I am missing my card, and I don't want to end up with the NFC on my phone denying me entry to a station barrier
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luc752 05/06/2025 16:43
Regarding the tracker idea, I'm trying to build something right now and I have a question: do you think it's possible for one person from each team to use my tracking app - we could have a real time visual view of the game 🙂
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ratt 05/06/2025 16:45
We usually just use Google Maps, and we have a borough border overlay here that players can use to search everything that they would otherwise do on GMaps, while also seeing team locations and borders.
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What would your app do?
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We usually just use Google Maps, and we have a borough border overlay here that players can use to search everything that they would otherwise do on GMaps, while also seeing team locations and borders.
Fahmi Sack 05/06/2025 16:45
Can you give the JLUK central account access to edit by any chance? There's a could changes I'd like to do on there
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luc752 05/06/2025 16:47
Basically 2 things. (1) Tracker app - simple tracker sending GPS coordinates to the server. (2) something like this: https://globetrotter.sasal.pl/borough_test.php
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Fahmi Sack
Can you give the JLUK central account access to edit by any chance? There's a could changes I'd like to do on there
ratt 05/06/2025 16:47
I'm not sure MyMaps does collaborative editing but you should be able to copy the map
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ratt
I'm not sure MyMaps does collaborative editing but you should be able to copy the map
Fahmi Sack 05/06/2025 16:47
Yeah done that.. Np
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ratt 05/06/2025 16:48
That map is literally just borough borders imported from a download off a government site
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Fahmi Sack 05/06/2025 16:48
16:48
@Realigning could you update the link with the new map I showed you yesterday?
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ratt 05/06/2025 16:48
I haven't edited it at all other than to change the opacity and border colour and thickness
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Fahmi Sack
@Realigning could you update the link with the new map I showed you yesterday?
Realigning 05/06/2025 16:49
I want to reach consensus on what we are doing first given the additional possible map we now have
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I think it's not ideal to tie the 'I want to figure out which borough I am in currently' use case to the 'I want to visually see who has scored points on the map' use case in Google Maps due to the constant need to refresh, exit and go back to open the original link whenever anything changes
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Fahmi Sack 05/06/2025 16:54
I'm currently testing out the refresh part.
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ratt 05/06/2025 16:55
I agree, I feel like a static map that's updated in the discord announcements channel is entirely adequate
16:57
I've been saying it for a while but I think a discord bot for automatically pushing game updates is the endgame of game automation in this server
16:57
get something that generates a map and pushes it to a webhook if the helpdesk push a button
16:58
because at the end of the day you're going to want the ping as well, there's little benefit to just having the map silently update
16:58
teams are going to be looking at #b4b-announcements for news
17:00
I think that just using google maps and have static maps put in the announcements channel as and when is all we need
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Fahmi Sack 05/06/2025 17:01
Ok, then scratch my idea for the timebeing - we'll just use a static border overlay
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Realigning 05/06/2025 17:03
It's funny how similar this is to my job. I'm a product strategist, so i spend half of my time telling engineers not to build stuff because we can't or won't use it
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ratt 05/06/2025 17:04
actually I just realised, Aneurin already built a discord-centric solution for Tramopoly
17:04
I wonder how easy that is to adapt to other formats?
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Fahmi Sack
Ok, then scratch my idea for the timebeing - we'll just use a static border overlay
Realigning 05/06/2025 17:05
It's kind of a shame because i do think there is some value to having an overlay on your google maps: but i also have been clear that we should maintain the announcements static map solution regardless. If the overlay doesn't update properly, it has the potential to cause confusion. And i don't want to ask you to spend time updating something that isn't absolutely necessary
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Realigning
It's kind of a shame because i do think there is some value to having an overlay on your google maps: but i also have been clear that we should maintain the announcements static map solution regardless. If the overlay doesn't update properly, it has the potential to cause confusion. And i don't want to ask you to spend time updating something that isn't absolutely necessary
Fahmi Sack 05/06/2025 17:07
Yeah there is a way to have the update pushed without constantly having to reopen the link, but it requires reopening the app - this would first require a correct setup though.
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Fahmi Sack
It would be if you're depending on a cheaper travel cap. For example, if you're only usually travelling Z1-4 throughout the capping week (£64.20), the extension of travelling for a day to Z6 means you end up paying £17.40, which is more than a single day travelcard for Z1-6. You'd have to check and compare the zones you normally travel on contactless with the travelcard prices. For reference, Saturdays are off-peak all day.
Jules 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 06/06/2025 00:10
I haven’t really been using that much tfl transport this week. So a 16 pound rail card might stilll be worth it
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But I still don’t know where you can buy one since I çant get it delivered in time
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Fahmi Sack 06/06/2025 00:11
Any ticket machine should be able to give you a paper travelcard.
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But I still don’t know where you can buy one since I çant get it delivered in time
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Any ticket machine should be able to give you a paper travelcard.
Jules 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 06/06/2025 00:14
Oh cool, thanks
00:14
Why would they bother mailing it to people then?!
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Joe 06/06/2025 00:14
can you buy them the day before?
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can you buy them the day before?
Fahmi Sack 06/06/2025 00:14
Yes.
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Joe 06/06/2025 00:15
so they activate the first time you use them I guess?
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Fahmi Sack 06/06/2025 00:15
No, you should be able to select a date for which it's valid.
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luc752 06/06/2025 06:42
Hello again 🙂 I am looking for 2 volunteers from Team1 and Team2 to test some functionality. Volunteer must be located in London today and be willing to show their location. If anyone is willing then please let me know via private message. Thanks.
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Hello again 🙂 I am looking for 2 volunteers from Team1 and Team2 to test some functionality. Volunteer must be located in London today and be willing to show their location. If anyone is willing then please let me know via private message. Thanks.
Realigning 06/06/2025 08:09
Btw i noticed a few things from the original version you sent (appreciate this is not final)
08:09
The wheel activation times might move depending on the start time (edited)
08:10
Also not sure of the incremental value of having the tube map displayed when that accounts for a fairly small percentage of the ways people are likely to travel. Unless you plan to cover all trains
08:12
Also would like to know whether you are expecting helpdesk to update the locks and claims or people to do it individually
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Sifa Poulton 06/06/2025 08:14
Ugh. More train fun to be aware of
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I would LOVE to go a single month without trains being out in the area
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Ugh. More train fun to be aware of
Realigning 06/06/2025 08:15
That's sunday though
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Sifa Poulton 06/06/2025 08:18
https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/status-and-disruptions/?date=20250607
Find details of current incidents | National Rail
A portal into UK rail travel, including information on ticket purchase and promotions, train times and delays, and more.
08:18
Full list of works national rail know avout
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That's sunday though
Sifa Poulton 06/06/2025 08:18
Oh thank goodness. Makes my life easier
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The wheel activation times might move depending on the start time (edited)
luc752 06/06/2025 08:19
Of course it's not final - I would say it's far away from final 😉 (edited)
08:20
For tomorrow I thought about the helpdesk updating the claims and i think it would be great
08:20
Still working on it though ...
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For tomorrow I thought about the helpdesk updating the claims and i think it would be great
Realigning 06/06/2025 08:21
Does this have the same problem that google maps has where you would need to fully refresh the link to display any changes?
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luc752 06/06/2025 08:21
No
08:21
I'm working on it right now
08:22
I'll be boarding a flight in 2 hours time and then I will be testing it back again in London
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Sifa Poulton 06/06/2025 08:24
For those arriving at Bank tomorrow by tube, you want exit three - royal exchange
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For those arriving at Bank tomorrow by tube, you want exit three - royal exchange
Realigning 06/06/2025 08:24
Thanks
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Fahmi Sack 06/06/2025 15:05
Please keep an eye out on the weather, it doesn't look like the most optimal unfortunately. Thunderstorm warning today with light showers all day tomorrow.
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Joe 06/06/2025 15:30
the yellow warning for thunderstorm is for tomorrow (the game day), not today
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Sifa Poulton 06/06/2025 15:33
For those who want hope about the weather, my part of London says it should be raining right now but it's so sunny the laundry is out
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Joe 06/06/2025 15:40
weather forecasts don't get the weather right down to the hour, but the general gist of them is normally correct
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Sifa Poulton 06/06/2025 15:55
The only accurate weather is the weather gonepast
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weather forecasts don't get the weather right down to the hour, but the general gist of them is normally correct
Sifa Poulton 06/06/2025 15:56
Supposed to have rained all day. I am very glad it hasn't
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sevenseas 06/06/2025 16:16
weather warnings tend to be extremely pessimistic every since michael fish famously said there would be 'nothing to worry about' prior to a major storm
16:16
i personally dont pay much attention to forecasts (edited)
16:18
whatever happens, happens, but i think it would be prudent to prepare just in case there is a bit of rain
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Realigning 06/06/2025 16:51
My bet is that there will be some periods of fairly heavy showers and some periods of no rain
16:52
The game area is probably big enough that you could try to dodge the rain - won't get you any points though
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ratt 06/06/2025 16:52
that would be an interesting game
16:52
get from A-B
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-1 point for every minute it is raining where you are
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16:52
lol
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Sifa Poulton 06/06/2025 16:57
I refuse to go anywhere in this country without a coat unless we're in the middle of an extended drought with sustained high air pressures
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that would be an interesting game
Sifa Poulton 06/06/2025 16:57
Certainly a challenging one in the UK
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My bet is that there will be some periods of fairly heavy showers and some periods of no rain
Joe 06/06/2025 17:00
that's exactly what's forecast
17:00
Overnight rain mostly clears by the early morning, with heavy and blustery showers then developing from late morning, moving eastwards and likely thundery at times with a risk of hail. Maximum temperature 19 °C.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 06/06/2025 18:29
Anymore final preps?
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Fahmi Sack 06/06/2025 18:49
Standard stuff: Powerbanks, Water, ID.
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shmee 06/06/2025 21:35
remember: bank is short for power bank
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-1 point for every minute it is raining where you are
Fahmi Sack 06/06/2025 21:52
windy.com ftw
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Jules 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 07/06/2025 00:14
I’m sorry guys I think I’m going to have to not come…. I just got home from work and I still have to back up footage and shit, I’ll just be an unhelpful and complaining zombie if I come.
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 01:12
If you feel like you need to join late so you can get some rest, I don't think that's too big of a problem? Something Realigning will need to comment on.
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Jules 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 07/06/2025 01:38
Honestly I’m still not done, I’m gonna be absolutely knackered. And tbh I should do the responsible thing and get some good rest and catch up on some work. I sadly don’t get weekends off 😅
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Jules 🇫🇷 🇬🇧
I’m sorry guys I think I’m going to have to not come…. I just got home from work and I still have to back up footage and shit, I’ll just be an unhelpful and complaining zombie if I come.
Joe 07/06/2025 05:58
Don't worry I'll be knackered too. The Airbnb I booked is quite terrible despite its good reviews. It has ceiling lights you can't properly turn off and I'm overheating in bed. Not getting much sleep.
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 06:50
Overheating? Open the window is cold rn
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verumIgnis 07/06/2025 07:41
Currently on the train to london (edited)
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Overheating? Open the window is cold rn
Joe 07/06/2025 07:49
There is no window
07:50
It's fine I've played one of these games on little sleep before, once your body gets moving you forget you're tired
07:51
(no that's not a lifehack, doesn't work for more than like a day xD)
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Sifa Poulton 07/06/2025 08:05
On the bus to get to the tube. See you all soon
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 07/06/2025 08:12
Probably getting there for just on 9 or so
08:12
Or like 8:50
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luc752 07/06/2025 08:13
Ok. I have something. https://globetrotter.sasal.pl/borough_test.php
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There will be (maybe) a real time map of the game
08:13
🙂
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 08:29
Is this le place?
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@Realigning
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ratt 07/06/2025 08:31
I'm going to be arriving a little late as discussed, getting into London Bridge a little after 9
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Is this le place?
Realigning 07/06/2025 08:32
You're very early but yes
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 08:36
Btw anyone into buses lads? Found something rare.
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shmee 07/06/2025 08:42
anyone here ?
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Gould 07/06/2025 08:42
I’m on the tube! See you all shortly
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 08:45
The weather here in Germany is absolutely terrible!
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Joe 07/06/2025 08:46
Good I hope you get all the rain and thunder
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 08:48
I probably will.
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Is this le place?
Joe 07/06/2025 08:56
Serious question. Why is your camera red-yellow colour blind
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Serious question. Why is your camera red-yellow colour blind
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 08:58
Huh?
08:58
Probably the scenery
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Joe 07/06/2025 08:59
The top of the traffic light is yellow conecern
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 09:00
Your helpdeskers today: @Team 1 - Me @Team 2 - Mediocre @Team 3 - Sevenseas Realigning will also be on the Helpdesk team as a backup, and to provide admin!
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Fahmi Sack
The weather here in Germany is absolutely terrible!
sevenseas 07/06/2025 09:13
Same here, raining quite badly
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ratt 07/06/2025 09:14
I am on a bus to Bank
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Btw anyone into buses lads? Found something rare.
sevenseas 07/06/2025 09:15
What have you found?
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Joe 07/06/2025 09:18
How do you get the borough overlay on Google maps?
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What have you found?
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 09:20
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@Joe open up this link
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Joe 07/06/2025 09:22
I hope there isn't a challenge to take a picture of the sun.
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 09:23
If you open it using your google account, you can then overlay it on your normal Google Maps as follows:
  • In the bottom middle of your Maps app, tap the 'You' tab
  • Scroll down until you see a 'Maps' button
  • Select the map
  • Select any filters you wish to overlay
  • Use the back buttons to return to the map, do not use the close button! The map should then be overlaid
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I hope there isn't a challenge to take a picture of the sun.
sevenseas 07/06/2025 09:24
There is going to be a dodge the rain challenge
09:25
If you get wet you lose a point (edited)
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 09:26
@Realigning One clarify, would challenges be completed get announced right?
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When locked?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 10:06
@Helpdesk did we forget to remind on tube closures?
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@Helpdesk did we forget to remind on tube closures?
Realigning 07/06/2025 10:07
yeah we did. DLR closed except for Stratford to Beckton and Stratford to Woolwich. Eastern half of Mildmay line closed. No trains from Blackheath to Charlton
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sevenseas 07/06/2025 10:07
Tfl status: (edited)
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 10:08
I'd remind all teams in case
10:08
Hopefully there's no need of claim of compensation
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Edison 07/06/2025 10:17
Can't see one of the teams anymore
10:17
Nvm
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 10:22
I think I lost one team
10:22
In the trackers
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I think I lost one team
Realigning 07/06/2025 10:22
which one?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 10:23
Edison's
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@Edison
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 10:24
Shall I click request?
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10:30
I suspect team 2 are on the tube
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Edison 07/06/2025 10:31
Tube
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sevenseas 07/06/2025 10:32
It happened in H&S also, don't worry if there's a few minutes of inactivity, mostly it's just that the team was on the tube
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 10:34
I think the tracker is switched off
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 10:34
I'd double check your tracker
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ratt 07/06/2025 11:08
Do you have the tracker now?
11:09
We were uploading a video and the internet got a little weird for a bit
11:09
Should be back now
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 11:14
Yes just now thanks
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Realigning 07/06/2025 11:22
@Jules 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 are you available to join up with your team at lunch or would you not be able to play today?
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ratt 07/06/2025 11:32
@Team 1 @Team 3 you're going down 👎
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Joe 07/06/2025 11:33
Ok
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shmee 07/06/2025 11:36
We're going down
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underground
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@Players advise that for challenges involving videos, you try to record in a lower definition than standard camera to reduce the file size
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@Team 1 @Team 3 you're going down 👎
verumIgnis 07/06/2025 11:38
Are we?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 11:38
Avuncular asked
11:38
Why don't somebody pay to boost this server?
11:38
@Helpdesk
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Joe 07/06/2025 11:38
I don't need to pay to do that
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 11:38
We're gonna need 14 boosts to allow 100MB uploads...
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Joe 07/06/2025 11:38
How many more boosts do we need
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verumIgnis 07/06/2025 11:38
Or we can just upload the photos somewhere else
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Joe 07/06/2025 11:39
That's a lot...
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 07/06/2025 11:39
Well our vid is 800mb lol
concern 2
11:39
So don’t worry
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 11:39
Also
11:39
Lunchtime 12pm correct?
11:39
12:30*
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Joe 07/06/2025 11:39
12:30 wasn't it?
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MediocreLogarithm257 07/06/2025 11:40
It's 12:30
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Joe 07/06/2025 11:40
If you already recorded in high definition, you can use an app to compress it into a lower definition
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If you already recorded in high definition, you can use an app to compress it into a lower definition
sevenseas 07/06/2025 11:45
You can but you still have to upload it and download it again
11:45
Quicker to upload to a third party platform and just send directly
11:45
Oh, there are apps to do it as well I suppose
11:45
It depends if you have one installed
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ratt 07/06/2025 11:48
Sorry about the "taking an hour to have a working video for Haringey" thing, the video was 500mb and had to be uploaded and processed by Google
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Joe 07/06/2025 11:55
Thanks for locking Croydon. Means we don't have to go there.
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Sorry about the "taking an hour to have a working video for Haringey" thing, the video was 500mb and had to be uploaded and processed by Google
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 12:12
Is that why you were delayed from competing more challenges?
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Thanks for locking Croydon. Means we don't have to go there.
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 12:13
Let him have it
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 12:27
Remember.. Wherever your tracker is at 12:30, that's where you restart... if it shows on a train track, good luck getting there at 1:30.
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Realigning 07/06/2025 12:28
i'll make a note of the exact tracker locations at 12:30
12:28
if your tracker is inaccurate though, you can provide other forms of proof
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 12:29
@Fahmi Sack why in greek?
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Gould 07/06/2025 12:30
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sevenseas 07/06/2025 12:30
It was part of the challenge they had to do
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Gould 07/06/2025 12:30
This is our stop place
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Joe 07/06/2025 12:30
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Barking station. Woof
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Edison 07/06/2025 12:32
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Joe 07/06/2025 12:44
Team 2 getting lunch right by the starting point lol
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 12:57
@Team 1 @Team 2 What you all doing for lunch break rn? (edited)
12:57
Eating?
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verumIgnis 07/06/2025 12:57
Eating greggs in starbucks
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 13:00
That sounds like a JL challenge.
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Sifa Poulton 07/06/2025 13:04
We're eating waitrose in a pret
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 14:33
@Fahmi Sack Hasn't Westminster been claimed already?
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@Fahmi Sack Hasn't Westminster been claimed already?
Realigning 07/06/2025 14:33
yep
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 14:33
Multiple teams can claim the same borough, only one team can lock it
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ratt 07/06/2025 14:35
No lock pls pleading
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Fahmi Sack
Multiple teams can claim the same borough, only one team can lock it
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 14:36
But no stealing claimed points then?
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ratt 07/06/2025 14:36
You do steal claimed points if you lock
14:36
Claim points and lock points don't stack
14:37
I don't think you needed to claim Greenwich for instance - unless you're concerned about another team coming back and doing the claim and the lock challenge
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 14:50
Are battle challenges existing?
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Are battle challenges existing?
Realigning 07/06/2025 14:51
No, it's just claiming and locking challenge - but locking on top of someone else's claim, and therefore removing it, is possible
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 15:01
I see team 1 going past vauxhall wtf
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15:01
On the tracker
15:02
I thought there were gonna lock Lambeth
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Joe 07/06/2025 15:05
Hippity hoppity your borough's our property
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Realigning 07/06/2025 15:06
merton fight merton fight
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Hippity hoppity your borough's our property
Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 15:08
Pun of the day!
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 15:10
@Team 1 Did you just travelled on a class 455?
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@Team 1 Did you just travelled on a class 455?
sevenseas 07/06/2025 15:11
Yeah, they were 455s
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 15:11
Class 455 Vs Thameslink
15:14
Gonna piss off Verum with the train stuff
15:14
Nationalised rail Vs privatised rail
15:19
6:30 end time right?
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6:30 end time right?
MediocreLogarithm257 07/06/2025 15:20
Game ends at 18:00
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Joe 07/06/2025 15:41
Can someone pin the borough overlay? It keeps disappearing from my maps
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Can someone pin the borough overlay? It keeps disappearing from my maps
Realigning 07/06/2025 15:42
done
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verumIgnis 07/06/2025 16:04
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Joe 07/06/2025 16:09
Team 2 tracker disappeared?
16:10
Ah no it's just classic Google maps bug
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Team 2 tracker disappeared?
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 16:11
Click the tracker
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verumIgnis 07/06/2025 16:56
This is the debating window
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 16:56
@Team 1 go watch planes at Heathrow stop distracting team 2 (edited)
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sevenseas 07/06/2025 16:57
Brb, 2 min
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Joe 07/06/2025 17:09
Team 2 has disappeared off my tracker again, this time refreshing is not helping
17:12
Still not seeing it
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 17:12
We can see it... Last update was more than 3 minutes ago
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Joe 07/06/2025 17:12
I can still see team 3 just fine
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 17:12
Ah it just updated..
17:13
@Team 2 Could you check your sharing to Team 1 please?
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Joe 07/06/2025 17:14
Now they're back
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Edison 07/06/2025 17:23
Where do we meet after?
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Where do we meet after?
Realigning 07/06/2025 17:24
considering the Metropolitan Bar (wetherspoons next to Baker Street)
17:24
will announce a definite meeting location at :45
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Joe 07/06/2025 17:26
Is the game still ending at 18:00?
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Is the game still ending at 18:00?
Realigning 07/06/2025 17:27
yes
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ratt 07/06/2025 17:42
gg to team 1
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will announce a definite meeting location at :45
Realigning 07/06/2025 17:46
@Players meet at Metropolitan Bar near Baker Street if you like. I will also be there (edited)
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gg to team 1
verumIgnis 07/06/2025 17:46
How is alperton station?
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How is alperton station?
ratt 07/06/2025 17:47
Wet
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 17:47
We've had every variety of possible claim now...
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Gould 07/06/2025 17:48
Thanks so much everyone
17:48
Had such a fun day
17:48
Sorry I can’t join tonight
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Joe 07/06/2025 17:49
Team 3 not gonna try lock Westminster in 11 minutes??
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shmee 07/06/2025 17:49
I hear big ben is nice this time of night
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verumIgnis 07/06/2025 17:49
They could probably run and do it
17:50
Let them use lime bikes
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Team 3 not gonna try lock Westminster in 11 minutes??
sevenseas 07/06/2025 17:50
They could, but it wouldn't affect the outcome
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Team 3 not gonna try lock Westminster in 11 minutes??
sevenseas 07/06/2025 17:50
They theoretically had a path to victory had you not claimed.locked any more boroughs
17:50
If they locked westminster and either lambeth or islington
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 07/06/2025 17:51
Ran out of time innit
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sevenseas 07/06/2025 17:51
It would have been very tight though, yes
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Mithent 07/06/2025 17:51
It ended closer than I expected!
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Joe 07/06/2025 17:51
Yeah and we wouldn't have sat there idly by
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ratt 07/06/2025 17:52
Theoretically we could also have played kingmaker for no change in placement and knocked Team 1 out of Harrow
17:52
But nah
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Sifa Poulton 07/06/2025 17:52
Well we're having cookies on the train back so who are the real winners?
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ratt 07/06/2025 17:52
Too wet
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Joe 07/06/2025 17:52
Our strategy would have been different if there was more time in the game. It revolved around the wheel because the wheel was in play for the whole game
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Jules 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 07/06/2025 17:52
Congrats team 1, glad to see yall didn’t need me 🙂
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 07/06/2025 17:52
gg wp
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Our strategy would have been different if there was more time in the game. It revolved around the wheel because the wheel was in play for the whole game
Mithent 07/06/2025 17:54
Makes sense since that was a key mechanic (claiming games have a habit of "keep away from everyone" being a good strategy without something to encourage teams together). Curious how it felt as a mechanic
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ratt 07/06/2025 17:54
Somehow we ran into team 1 and tried to make a pact with them, both thinking the other was team 3
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Somehow we ran into team 1 and tried to make a pact with them, both thinking the other was team 3
Joe 07/06/2025 17:54
Oh no we knew exactly who you were, we were keeping up the deception
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 17:54
The team 2 curse...
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17:55
Curse of the Team 2 Race your team mate. One teammate must have a head start and still end up losing to the other.
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Joe 07/06/2025 17:55
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verumIgnis 07/06/2025 17:56
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ratt 07/06/2025 17:57
lmao
17:57
That one took us a while
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MediocreLogarithm257 07/06/2025 17:57
Team 3 did it in 5 questions
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ratt 07/06/2025 17:58
I do think that Amy counts as an influencer though
17:58
That's the one that threw us off
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verumIgnis 07/06/2025 17:59
Amy influenced this game
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MediocreLogarithm257 07/06/2025 18:01
Congrats to Team 1 for winning
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Mithent 07/06/2025 18:02
Congrats to team 1!
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 07/06/2025 18:02
We’re at the spoons
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Sifa Poulton 07/06/2025 18:02
Congratulations
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Joe 07/06/2025 18:03
We're on our way, we were quite far out 🙂
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We're on our way, we were quite far out 🙂
Sifa Poulton 07/06/2025 18:06
You amaze me
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 18:06
The remaining challenges were: Do Squats You must squat a total of 20 times per player in your team. However, the distribution does not actually have to be per player: for example, one or two team members can cover the whole total. you can take a break if you wish to. Make a Word Search puzzle Make the puzzle on a 10x10 grid of letters that includes the name of the borough, and at least 6 other words, minimum 4 letters each. at least 3 of the words must be diagonal. Bending words are not allowed. if the name of the borough is longer than 10 letters, you can include only one part of the name of the borough Do a 30 second episode of the Snack Zone One team member must obtain and review the snack as part of an episode of the Snack Zone. The whole thing must be recorded and last for at least 30 seconds. The snack can be obtained anywhere, but must be consumed by at least one team member. Advertise Jet Lag Draw a poster advertising Jet Lag: The Game. You have 5 mins to draw. You must then put up the poster in a legal position of your choice. The poster must clearly promote Jet Lag. Scratch a Lotto Scratchcard You must buy and completely scratch a Lotto scratchcard. Run a mile One of your team members must (if able) run a mile. You may measure the distance of your run beforehand. You may run around at a park or anywhere with wider space. Only one team member at a time may complete this challenge however they can change over when needed. You must not use any other kinds of transport besides running.
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 07/06/2025 18:07
It’s extremely busy here
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It’s extremely busy here
Realigning 07/06/2025 18:07
Wait really it showed as empty on google like an hour ago
18:07
Uh oh
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 18:08
@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb your tracker is still showing btw (edited)
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 07/06/2025 18:09
We bought a pint just to tide us over
18:10
There’s no tables, we’re stood up atm
18:10
@luc752 were at the bar
18:11
Can we open up all the chats I wanna look lol
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@FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb your tracker is still showing btw (edited)
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 18:11
I just switched off
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Can we open up all the chats I wanna look lol
sevenseas 07/06/2025 18:11
I gave you the spectator role
18:12
It'll officially be opened up soon
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 18:12
Should be fine now
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 07/06/2025 18:12
Nice ty
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Joe 07/06/2025 18:17
There's a ton of rugby fans on this train specifically on their way to the baker street spoons (edited)
18:17
I think we should switch to another pub
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 07/06/2025 18:17
I agree
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ratt 07/06/2025 18:17
There's the one at Kings Cross
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 07/06/2025 18:17
It’s usually busy also hmmm
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 18:18
Just lyk Luc has just left
18:18
Just me and Chrno
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ratt 07/06/2025 18:19
We could go to one not next to a mainline station
18:19
Holborn or covent garden
18:20
We're two stops away from baker street atm so we need to know whether to get off
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Joe 07/06/2025 18:21
We'll meet by the door
18:22
Then we'll decide
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ratt 07/06/2025 18:22
isn't that going to be wet?
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luc752 07/06/2025 18:24
It turned out that I have plans. Thank you so much for playing and having a chance to complete. It was great. Hope to see you again soon!
18:25
I will keep you informed about the app development
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AVUNCULAR ENERGY 07/06/2025 18:25
It kinda stopped raining
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ratt 07/06/2025 18:28
If team 3 can avoid transferring it's probably worth deciding earlier
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 18:32
@Jules 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 wanna meet us at the pub tonight?
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@Jules 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 wanna meet us at the pub tonight?
Jules 🇫🇷 🇬🇧 07/06/2025 18:33
Thanks for the offer but I’m too broke, and I’ve got too much to do.
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 18:39
I've given everyone the spectator role so you can read back on today!
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verumIgnis 07/06/2025 19:05
We badly advertised jltg
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We badly advertised jltg
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 19:06
Fake
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MediocreLogarithm257 07/06/2025 19:38
For "Make a Word Search puzzle", can I include "and" for "Hammersmith and Fulham"?
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ratt 07/06/2025 19:54
uh, did everyone head out?
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Sifa Poulton 07/06/2025 20:07
Thank you everyone for such a great game - I had so much fun today
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Sifa Poulton 07/06/2025 20:15
(my phone finally let me turn it back on)
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Fahmi Sack 07/06/2025 22:29
I'm surprised no one made a pun about reinventing the wheel today.
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I'm surprised no one made a pun about reinventing the wheel today.
Realigning 07/06/2025 23:18
I'm sure the opportunity will come around again
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 07/06/2025 23:19
A lot of us probably fell asleep shortly after.
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Sifa Poulton 08/06/2025 15:51
Team 2 route (sorry can't seem to access the team chat to put it there): Central line from Bank to Tottenham court road Walked to Piccadilly Circus Walked to Trafalgar Square Walked to seven dials 29 Bus to 22 Cleveland st Victoria line from Warren St to Seven sisters Weaver Line from South Tottenham to London fields Walked to Cambridge Heath Weaver Line from Cambridge heath to Liverpool St Walked to moorgate 21 bus to monument District line to earls court District line to Fulham Broadway District line to Kew Gardens (transfer at Earls court) 110 bus to key bridge station Walked to 27 great west road Walked to north Korean embassy Walked to north Acton Piccadilly to Alperton
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(I took notes)
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shmee 08/06/2025 16:00
this was some of my journey throughout the day (not all trains logs as uh a lot) https://trainlogger.co.uk/shmee/sightings/2025-06-07
shmee's sightings on Saturday 7th June 2025
trainlogger - The train spotting website with 25,000 shunters, locomotives, multiple units and trams to log your sightings, haulage and photographs against.
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shmee 08/06/2025 16:16
rest of team 1 feel free to fill in the gaps
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Joe 08/06/2025 19:53
Team 1's route: Northern line from Bank to London Bridge Southwark claim+lock Jubilee line from London Bridge to Stratford (asked for Tower Hamlets, Greenwich, and Newham claim challenges on the way) Newham claim Central line from Stratford to Leytonstone Waltham Forest claim+lock Central line from Leytonstone to Wanstead Redbridge claim+lock Central line from Wanstead to Stratford Jubilee line from Stratford to West Ham The Newham locking challenge required us to split up. Sammy took Hammersmith and City line from West Ham to East Ham while we stayed at West Ham Newham lock Sammy took District line from East Ham to Barking while we took c2c from West Ham to Barking Barking and Dagenham claim+lock c2c from Barking to Upminster Havering claim c2c from Upminster from Barking, arrive at 12:29 Lunch break c2c from Barking to West Ham, leaving at 13:30 Jubilee line from West Ham to North Greenwich Greenwich claim+lock Jubilee line from North Greenwich to Westminster (asked for Lambeth claim challenge on the way) Westminster claim Jubilee line from Westminster to Waterloo Lambeth claim SWR from Waterloo to Wimbledon Attempted Merton claim failed SWR from Wimbledon to Kingston Kingston upon Thames claim SWR from Kingston to Teddington Richmond upon Thames claim+lock SWR from Teddington to Richmond District line from Richmond to Turnham Green District line from Turnham Green to Acton Town Piccadilly line from Acton Town to South Harrow Harrow claim Piccadilly line from South Harrow to Rayners Lane (the rest of that train's journey was cancelled) Metropolitan line from Rayners Lane to Eastcote Hillingdon claim
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shmee 08/06/2025 20:19
also huge shoutouts to the lady at scope in wanstead who helped us find 10 kings in the store
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Realigning 11/06/2025 10:15
I'd really encourage any further feedback here because i do think we will be running this format in future
10:16
There are a couple of small changes i'd consider but i want to hear from the players first. (At minimum all of the challenges would be changed)
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There are a couple of small changes i'd consider but i want to hear from the players first. (At minimum all of the challenges would be changed)
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 11/06/2025 10:17
I think the chocolate challenge should be improved
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Mithent 11/06/2025 10:17
I'm quite interested in thoughts about the wheel as a mechanic
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 11/06/2025 10:18
Since the last 2 attempts I've seen were simply taking a whole ille of chocolates
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I think the chocolate challenge should be improved
Mithent 11/06/2025 10:18
Agreed that finding lots of things shouldn't just require a photo of an aisle, that's too straightforward
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 11/06/2025 10:18
I'd say split them into different actual things made of or with chocolate.
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Fahmi Sack 11/06/2025 10:19
Or limit it to one per establishment. (edited)
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 11/06/2025 10:19
Like, Chocolate bars such as twix should count as one thing
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Sifa Poulton 11/06/2025 10:19
The wheel felt like a lot of info to take in and keep atop of with how rapidly things were activating/deactivating (every 30 mins) so maybe four in an hour instead of two in every half hour would be a little less info to try and juggle atop everything else?
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 11/06/2025 10:19
I can think of around 10 items made of or from chocolate.
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I think the chocolate challenge should be improved
Realigning 11/06/2025 10:19
I'm not asking about the specific challenges here. We'd change them all anyway
10:19
I'm asking about the rules and format
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Sifa Poulton 11/06/2025 10:20
As team 1 demonstrated, the wheel was the path to winning, so maybe making it a little easier to get your head around would encourage more to go that route (and have more fun team clashes?)
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 11/06/2025 10:20
Just realised, when is this section gonna be made public?
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The wheel felt like a lot of info to take in and keep atop of with how rapidly things were activating/deactivating (every 30 mins) so maybe four in an hour instead of two in every half hour would be a little less info to try and juggle atop everything else?
Fahmi Sack 11/06/2025 10:21
Yes, that's a good point! If we had the same information thrown at us over lesser instances and longer periods, it makes digesting this information much more feasible, not saying it wasn't in the first place.
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Mithent 11/06/2025 10:22
At least as a spectator it did seem to encourage teams to go in similar general directions and not immediately diverge
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 11/06/2025 10:23
I think not all the locking challenges should be changed, obviously change some of them at least
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Sifa Poulton 11/06/2025 10:23
I also really liked that we could get challenges "early" by passing through boroughs but that we didn't have to immediately do them or automatically lose the Borough. It really helped with our afternoon planning to be able to prep a few boroughs ahead
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FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 11/06/2025 10:23
Maybe if it's around a year later then it would still be worth retaining most of the challenges.
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I also really liked that we could get challenges "early" by passing through boroughs but that we didn't have to immediately do them or automatically lose the Borough. It really helped with our afternoon planning to be able to prep a few boroughs ahead
Fahmi Sack 11/06/2025 10:24
I noticed that was also a strategy by team 1 when they went to an outer borough, allowing them more time to plan for the inner borough. (edited)
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Sifa Poulton 11/06/2025 10:25
Perhaps make that explicit in the rules? We weren't willing to risk it until we'd checked with help desk we wouldn't get a penalty
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Fahmi Sack 11/06/2025 10:26
I would rather leave it to be implicit, because its a matter of reading between the lines and figuring out what strategies are possible - now that it's done and mentioned there shouldn't really be an issue
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Sifa Poulton 11/06/2025 10:27
I would also maybe shift the wheel for future, just to add an element of change (maybe thinking about where the eastern river falls as that's a pretty big transport barrier) ((lower thames crossing when?))
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Fahmi Sack 11/06/2025 10:29
What if we also implemented curses? That way teams are more likely to actually be head-to-head as the only time teams actually competed was when locking a borough.
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I think not all the locking challenges should be changed, obviously change some of them at least
Realigning 11/06/2025 10:29
Personally i think there would only be a couple i would keep and that's if a) nobody did them and b) i think they are very good. I think i would probably keep Barnet, Hillingdon, Hackney. That's probably it. Want to make sure it feels fresh especially if we get many of the same players again
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Personally i think there would only be a couple i would keep and that's if a) nobody did them and b) i think they are very good. I think i would probably keep Barnet, Hillingdon, Hackney. That's probably it. Want to make sure it feels fresh especially if we get many of the same players again
Sifa Poulton 11/06/2025 10:31
Hillingdon was so location specific and also weather specific (the rain meant visibility was poor - we were debating doing it at Hayes and Harlington until the rain came in with a vengeance and we figured it'd be hard to see anything taking off unless we had our nose against the fence) so perhaps a backup for rain?
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What if we also implemented curses? That way teams are more likely to actually be head-to-head as the only time teams actually competed was when locking a borough.
Realigning 11/06/2025 10:32
When would you draw a curse?
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What if we also implemented curses? That way teams are more likely to actually be head-to-head as the only time teams actually competed was when locking a borough.
Sifa Poulton 11/06/2025 10:32
Oooo and/or tower-like-things to make moving around to and from challenge locations tricky
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Oooo and/or tower-like-things to make moving around to and from challenge locations tricky
Realigning 11/06/2025 10:33
Interestingly this actually was discussed!
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When would you draw a curse?
Fahmi Sack 11/06/2025 10:35
Once you complete a challenge you could draw a minor curse, and locking a borough gets you a major curse? Minor curses could be something like a small excersice (stretches/starjunp/situps etc) and a major curse could be any of the H&S curses (that could be applied)? (edited)
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Sifa Poulton 11/06/2025 10:36
With a cost to cast them?
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I really like this idea BTW - I think it would force more interaction
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With a cost to cast them?
Fahmi Sack 11/06/2025 10:37
Well, you earned the curse by completing a challenge, would it make sense to add an additional thing? (edited)
10:37
Probably for major curses
10:38
My English is all over the place today...
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Sifa Poulton 11/06/2025 10:39
You could also add curses like taking late transport or can only take certain modes or colours of transport next (i.e. the colour of your next tube line/overground must be a primary colour) to play with London's specific network a bit more (edited)
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Personally i think there would only be a couple i would keep and that's if a) nobody did them and b) i think they are very good. I think i would probably keep Barnet, Hillingdon, Hackney. That's probably it. Want to make sure it feels fresh especially if we get many of the same players again
FormulaOtaku/RacingWeeb 11/06/2025 10:42
There are a handful of challenges that weren't used.
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Besides, I don't think I can even think of more challenges other than the ones we had.
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I do feel most of our potential ideas on locking challenges can be low effort or are not as known.
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Joe 11/06/2025 13:12
I think it's worth bearing in mind that if we play this game again as it is right now, more teams will go for the wheel strategy which will lead to crowding of the wheel
13:13
We already saw it a bit at the end of this game, when team 1 and 2 were both going for wheel boroughs, but by that point it was too late to change the course of the game
13:15
I was pretty sceptical that the wheel would work going into this game due to there being too much competition, and I think if the wheel gets too overcrowded, it could lead to quite a frustrating experience for everyone, there's a balance of crowding to get right (edited)
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Fahmi Sack 11/06/2025 13:35
Would it then make sense to have outer boroughs go clockwise and inner counterclockwise?
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I was pretty sceptical that the wheel would work going into this game due to there being too much competition, and I think if the wheel gets too overcrowded, it could lead to quite a frustrating experience for everyone, there's a balance of crowding to get right (edited)
Realigning 11/06/2025 13:41
Do you think this would be alleviated to some extent if teams didn't have trackers on each other? So that they didn't know exactly how much effort would be required to stay ahead of each other?
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Joe 11/06/2025 14:18
Not really, in fact that could possibly make it more frustrating
14:20
I can't really think of a good solution to the problem right now, I just think the wheel has the potential to become very annoying if all teams are trying to do the same thing
14:20
It might be worth going back to basics, figuring out what problems the wheel was trying to solve and think of alternative ways to solve the problem
14:23
But maybe I'm wrong, maybe it will work
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Mithent 11/06/2025 14:58
This is by design to some extent, obviously don't want it to be unfun but it was intended to try to bring teams together to fight over boroughs and strategise around each other rather than just going off in three different directions and seeing how quickly they can do challenges. But it is a balance
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Joe 11/06/2025 15:22
Yeah, it's fun to have a few battles so I agree with that, but if it's far too much it'll get more frustrating than fun
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I'm quite interested in thoughts about the wheel as a mechanic
luc752 12/06/2025 15:57
My personal (one time) opinion on the wheel is that right now it seems too overpowered to me. When we realised that Team2 didn't compete in the northeast and east boroughs (as we didn't either) we knew we were screwed 😉 (edited)
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Perhaps it would be a good idea to distribute the wheel evenly on opposite sides of London and spin it twice in different boroughs. For example: Havering + Wandsworth; Bromley + Brent; Hounslow + Newham and so on …
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Fahmi Sack 12/06/2025 20:46
Just a heads up! I'll be archiving this game on the weekend.
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